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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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Cam and injector ?s

I'm looking at replacing my fuel injectors(again, long story short, I got some shatty rebuilt ones and now have issues) and when I'm at it, I figured Id tare into the front of the motor and put a new timming chain in it,(148,000 miles on motor) so might as well go a step farther and slap a new cam in right? lol, well I'm new to this fuel injection mod stuff, so I'm kinda clueless as to what works and what does not....

Heres what I was looking at....
These injectors, and this cam


The Mods I have done so far is k&n and full legnth headers...... How would that cam work out in my 94?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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do you have a MAF or SD 302???? If you have MAF just about any cam will work but if you have SD there are only a few choices due to the engine working on high vacuum pressure.

If you don't know how to tell... Look under the hood and see if you have a air meter with a couple wires running to it... It will be inbetween the air filter box and your throttle body.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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Yes Its a MAF motor, guess I should have mentioned it.....
 
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Conanski/Paul usually has good recommendations for cams... I don't have a MAF motor so I didn't have the freedom to pick what I want like you...
 
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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That's a complete NO GO on both those items, your EFI system cannot adjust to nor does it need larger injectors, and besides the fact that the Ford alphabet cams are a terrible choice for a truck 5.0 they're not SD compatable either. Get yourself a new timing set and spring for the better Cloyes true double roller.. it's about $100, and add 1.7 rockers instead of changing the cam. The stock cam in this motor is about as good a truck cam as it gets.. it just needs more lift to let the motor to breath better and the rockers will accomplish that.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Speak of the devil and he appears! LOL
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
That's a complete NO GO on both those items, your EFI system cannot adjust to nor does it need larger injectors, and besides the fact that the Ford alphabet cams are a terrible choice for a truck 5.0 they're not SD compatable either. Get yourself a new timing set and spring for the better Cloyes true double roller.. it's about $100, and add 1.7 rockers instead of changing the cam. The stock cam in this motor is about as good a truck cam as it gets.. it just needs more lift to let the motor to breath better and the rockers will accomplish that.

Really?! reason I looked at thoes injectors is this is in the aplication list...<TABLE class=app><TBODY><TR><TD class=app-labels>OEM Stock Replacement</TD><TD class=app-midmargin></TD><TD class=app-data>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=app-labels>Computer and Engine Modifications Required</TD><TD class=app-midmargin></TD><TD class=app-data>No</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Mine Is a MAF motor, so does that still make it a bad cam to pick?

I was looking at different rockers, but didnt think they would make much difference by themselfs..
 
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Originally Posted by nstueve
Speak of the devil and he appears! LOL
I resemble that remark!!

So the truck in question has mass air but that doesn't change my suggestion, you could use a HO cam or the Comp XE264HR that I have but I don't think you will see much gain over the stock cam and rockers.. any gains that are realized happen at the top of the tach and that's not so good for milage.. my truck currently gets no more than 13mpg. If you really want to light a fire under the hood start looking for a 5.8 to swap in, it's takes more displacement to move 5000lbs around with authority.
 
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Best mpg I've got was 14, that was with the wife driving it



I got 12.6 mpg this past weekend running 3000 rpm for 200 miles........... so...........


Remember, Im running 4.56 gears with 33s, so its "overall ratio" is a bit lower than stock
 
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Originally Posted by hav24wheel
Really?! reason I looked at thoes injectors is this is in the aplication list...<TABLE class=app><TBODY><TR><TD class=app-labels>OEM Stock Replacement</TD><TD class=app-midmargin></TD><TD class=app-data>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=app-labels>Computer and Engine Modifications Required</TD><TD class=app-midmargin></TD><TD class=app-data>No</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>..
That's wrong.. the computer is programmed for 19lb injectors so anything else will mess things up. 19's are good for 300+ hp anyway and you're nowhere near that yet.


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Mine Is a MAF motor, so does that still make it a bad cam to pick?.
Yes.. the EFI system has no impact on the engine powerband that's all about the cam.
 
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How Do you like that cam? 512 lift if I'm lookin at the right one....
 
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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hav24wheel
I got 12.6 mpg this past weekend running 3000 rpm for 200 miles........... so...........

Remember, Im running 4.56 gears with 33s, so its "overall ratio" is a bit lower than stock
What no overdrive? Or were you doing 90mph the whole time?
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
That's wrong.. the computer is programmed for 19lb injectors so anything else will mess things up. 19's are good for 300+ hp anyway and you're nowhere near that yet.

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Old Sep 21, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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I'd have to agree with "the devil" (LOL)... Paul is right you need a bigger engine to move that truck... The 5.0L in my opinion was always better suited for a mustang or explorer rather than a truck. The 5.8L swap is a common one since you can get a lot more "pep in your step with it..." I personally wouldn't spend excessive $$$ on a 302 when you can get more grunt for your buck with a 351w... Just my $0.02...
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
What no overdrive? Or were you doing 90mph the whole time?
well, it was closer to 85.......... But got to love fallowin the MN drivers leavin the twin citys.....
 
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