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OK, I'm sure this one has been killed before but here goes...
I've been looking at leveling kits for my 2002 F350 diesel 4x4 cc...
-- Superlift 2" kit and their new "Superide" 3" with 9 leaf pack.
-- ProComp 2" 5 leaf pack, trackbar bkt.
-- ProComp 2" 5 leaf pack, with "cam tubes", NO trackbar bkt.
-- Fox Performance, The Edge 3" kit, shackles and hangars only.
-- Revtek 2.5" 5 leaf pack
Can anyone tell me the pros and cons here. Some kits provide new spring packs, some only shackles and hangars. What's affected? Ride quality? Strength?
Thanks for the help.
I've been looking at leveling kits for my 2002 F350 diesel 4x4 cc...
-- Superlift 2" kit and their new "Superide" 3" with 9 leaf pack.
-- ProComp 2" 5 leaf pack, trackbar bkt.
-- ProComp 2" 5 leaf pack, with "cam tubes", NO trackbar bkt.
-- Fox Performance, The Edge 3" kit, shackles and hangars only.
-- Revtek 2.5" 5 leaf pack
Can anyone tell me the pros and cons here. Some kits provide new spring packs, some only shackles and hangars. What's affected? Ride quality? Strength?
Thanks for the help.
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Out of your choices, I would go with the Edge 3". It is extremely strong, and will give you the best ride since it retains the stock springs. The 3" lift includes Bilstein 5100 shocks which are a great improvement over stock.
All of your other choices involve leaf packs. The packs have a higher spring rate than the stock springs and will give you a rougher ride.
Hope this helps.
All of your other choices involve leaf packs. The packs have a higher spring rate than the stock springs and will give you a rougher ride.
Hope this helps.
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DC;
I've just reveiwed your replies to both the posts about leveling kits. I your vast experience, have you any thoughts on my dually?
It's a 2wd and is about 3" higher in the back than the front. I don't know whether to raise the front (Twin I beam with coils), or lower the rear. Any idea on who makes a lit for either?
Thanks,
Rick
I've just reveiwed your replies to both the posts about leveling kits. I your vast experience, have you any thoughts on my dually?
It's a 2wd and is about 3" higher in the back than the front. I don't know whether to raise the front (Twin I beam with coils), or lower the rear. Any idea on who makes a lit for either?
Thanks,
Rick
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Well, I have also been debating between the 3" Edge kit and the Tuff Country 2.5" levling Kit with front leaf packs and adding Rancho 9000's to soften the stiff ride.
The problem I have with the Edge is that I plow and te stock springs just do not seem heavy duty enough. I figured with the added leafs and the 9000's it would make for a stronger front end and a smoother ride.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
The problem I have with the Edge is that I plow and te stock springs just do not seem heavy duty enough. I figured with the added leafs and the 9000's it would make for a stronger front end and a smoother ride.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Rick,
I don't think that there are any "leveling kits" for the 2wd SDs. Now their are lifts by companies like Fabtech and RCD that will lift and level your truck 4-6". Don't think I have ever seen one on a dually though.
Some guys over at the dieselstop are wanting to level too and they have decided to lower the rear I think
Hope this helps.
I don't think that there are any "leveling kits" for the 2wd SDs. Now their are lifts by companies like Fabtech and RCD that will lift and level your truck 4-6". Don't think I have ever seen one on a dually though.
Some guys over at the dieselstop are wanting to level too and they have decided to lower the rear I think
Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by nitwit29
Well, I have also been debating between the 3" Edge kit and the Tuff Country 2.5" levling Kit with front leaf packs and adding Rancho 9000's to soften the stiff ride.
The problem I have with the Edge is that I plow and te stock springs just do not seem heavy duty enough. I figured with the added leafs and the 9000's it would make for a stronger front end and a smoother ride.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Well, I have also been debating between the 3" Edge kit and the Tuff Country 2.5" levling Kit with front leaf packs and adding Rancho 9000's to soften the stiff ride.
The problem I have with the Edge is that I plow and te stock springs just do not seem heavy duty enough. I figured with the added leafs and the 9000's it would make for a stronger front end and a smoother ride.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
The Edge with the bilsteins will give you a smoother ride since it retains the stock springs and the bilsteins are custom valved for the SD.
Do, you have x-code springs now?
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Thanks, DCSpecial.
As far as the x-springs, I do not know. Are they the F-550 spings? I have stock springs and I got the snow plow package with the truck. It is a 1999 1/2 F-350 PSD 4x4.
To be honest the $740.00 is pretty expensive. Plus, I have no where to do the work myself and will have to have a garage do the work.
I just figured I would save $$ with the Tuff Country an Rancho's and strengthen the front a little bit.
Trying to stretch the buck.
As far as the x-springs, I do not know. Are they the F-550 spings? I have stock springs and I got the snow plow package with the truck. It is a 1999 1/2 F-350 PSD 4x4.
To be honest the $740.00 is pretty expensive. Plus, I have no where to do the work myself and will have to have a garage do the work.
I just figured I would save $$ with the Tuff Country an Rancho's and strengthen the front a little bit.
Trying to stretch the buck.
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If you have the plow package then yes they are the X-codes, same as the F-550 stock springs. On the sticker on your door jamb, it should say somewhere Front GAWR: 6000lbs.
A few guys with plows go with a add a leaf in the front to handle the weight and get a little lift.
A few guys with plows go with a add a leaf in the front to handle the weight and get a little lift.
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Originally posted by nitwit29
Well, I have also been debating between the 3" Edge kit and the Tuff Country 2.5" levling Kit with front leaf packs and adding Rancho 9000's to soften the stiff ride.
The problem I have with the Edge is that I plow and te stock springs just do not seem heavy duty enough. I figured with the added leafs and the 9000's it would make for a stronger front end and a smoother ride.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Well, I have also been debating between the 3" Edge kit and the Tuff Country 2.5" levling Kit with front leaf packs and adding Rancho 9000's to soften the stiff ride.
The problem I have with the Edge is that I plow and te stock springs just do not seem heavy duty enough. I figured with the added leafs and the 9000's it would make for a stronger front end and a smoother ride.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Like the posts, have to get some Banks' questions answered somewhere around here.
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I noticed that most of the leveling kits out there have a means of correcting for the height change in the trackbar by either a drop down bracket, or with "cam tubes" inserted in the trackbar. But the Edge kit doesn't address this. I called them and they reacted like they hadn't thought of this, and said that in their experience no adjustment is required, that the trackbar "fits just fine" with their kit installed.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Okay, I'll try this one.
I don't know why companies like Edge and Fabtech don't adress trac bar issues in their leveling kits. But, if you want a good ride I would only pick between one of those two.
My thinking is that all of the different motor options, cab configs. , and spring codes would use the same bracket and trac bar stock even though one truck might sit 3" or so higher than the other one. So, if you have a truck with a rake such as yours, even if you level it out 3" or so it will be within ford specs.
If it were me with any lift I would get an adjustable trac bar without a doubt. And it is recommended with all of the lifts.
About a year and a half ago I saw one of Superlift's trac bar bracket for their 2" kit. I held it up to the stock one that I have and it was the exact same size but looked to me like it was weaker than the stock one.
Not sure if this helps or not
I don't know why companies like Edge and Fabtech don't adress trac bar issues in their leveling kits. But, if you want a good ride I would only pick between one of those two.
My thinking is that all of the different motor options, cab configs. , and spring codes would use the same bracket and trac bar stock even though one truck might sit 3" or so higher than the other one. So, if you have a truck with a rake such as yours, even if you level it out 3" or so it will be within ford specs.
If it were me with any lift I would get an adjustable trac bar without a doubt. And it is recommended with all of the lifts.
About a year and a half ago I saw one of Superlift's trac bar bracket for their 2" kit. I held it up to the stock one that I have and it was the exact same size but looked to me like it was weaker than the stock one.
Not sure if this helps or not
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I have a new theory....and of course it's just my opinion.
Leveling kits are a waste of time, money and effort.
It would be like replacing a cam but not the timming chain and gear.
You more or less are goining to have it a part, might as well do the job once and be happy.
Few bucks more you get a real lift, with all the necessary parts.
And then you have no worries about any rubbing or sheet metal damage.
All the recommendations about what size for this tire or that tire, are there because the companies have done their R&D.
The top 4 lift companes know what they are talking about when they say run 35's with a 6" lift, thats because it will give you full travel + so you will never have a rub or rip problem.
Just my thoughts, I guess getting woke up at 5am this morning by some girls ex rubbed me the wrong way
Leveling kits are a waste of time, money and effort.
It would be like replacing a cam but not the timming chain and gear.
You more or less are goining to have it a part, might as well do the job once and be happy.
Few bucks more you get a real lift, with all the necessary parts.
And then you have no worries about any rubbing or sheet metal damage.
All the recommendations about what size for this tire or that tire, are there because the companies have done their R&D.
The top 4 lift companes know what they are talking about when they say run 35's with a 6" lift, thats because it will give you full travel + so you will never have a rub or rip problem.
Just my thoughts, I guess getting woke up at 5am this morning by some girls ex rubbed me the wrong way
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Originally posted by YETI
I have a new theory....and of course it's just my opinion.
Leveling kits are a waste of time, money and effort.
It would be like replacing a cam but not the timming chain and gear.
You more or less are goining to have it a part, might as well do the job once and be happy.
Few bucks more you get a real lift, with all the necessary parts.
And then you have no worries about any rubbing or sheet metal damage.
All the recommendations about what size for this tire or that tire, are there because the companies have done their R&D.
The top 4 lift companes know what they are talking about when they say run 35's with a 6" lift, thats because it will give you full travel + so you will never have a rub or rip problem.
Just my thoughts, I guess getting woke up at 5am this morning by some girls ex rubbed me the wrong way
I have a new theory....and of course it's just my opinion.
Leveling kits are a waste of time, money and effort.
It would be like replacing a cam but not the timming chain and gear.
You more or less are goining to have it a part, might as well do the job once and be happy.
Few bucks more you get a real lift, with all the necessary parts.
And then you have no worries about any rubbing or sheet metal damage.
All the recommendations about what size for this tire or that tire, are there because the companies have done their R&D.
The top 4 lift companes know what they are talking about when they say run 35's with a 6" lift, thats because it will give you full travel + so you will never have a rub or rip problem.
Just my thoughts, I guess getting woke up at 5am this morning by some girls ex rubbed me the wrong way
But, for a lot of people they just want to level out the front and run some 33s on the street and that's cool too. To each his own I guess
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I hear ya, I just remeber when I was running lifts back in early 80's, it was hard enough to locate them, let alone get it installed and then realize...dam why didn't I go bigger.
I should dig out the pics I have of my 78 bronco, I think it was 2 years old, when I stuck in a 6" and was running 35" buckshots.
The 80's were bad times....everybody was into "graphics" the truck was typical ford drk blue and I stripped it with a neon pink.
What the hell was I thinking!!!
Big 3 inch stripes over the hood and down the sides....my friends called it the barbie mobile......the things we do to be different!!!
I should dig out the pics I have of my 78 bronco, I think it was 2 years old, when I stuck in a 6" and was running 35" buckshots.
The 80's were bad times....everybody was into "graphics" the truck was typical ford drk blue and I stripped it with a neon pink.
What the hell was I thinking!!!
Big 3 inch stripes over the hood and down the sides....my friends called it the barbie mobile......the things we do to be different!!!
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Originally posted by karic
DC;
I've just reveiwed your replies to both the posts about leveling kits. I your vast experience, have you any thoughts on my dually?
It's a 2wd and is about 3" higher in the back than the front. I don't know whether to raise the front (Twin I beam with coils), or lower the rear. Any idea on who makes a lit for either?
Thanks,
Rick
DC;
I've just reveiwed your replies to both the posts about leveling kits. I your vast experience, have you any thoughts on my dually?
It's a 2wd and is about 3" higher in the back than the front. I don't know whether to raise the front (Twin I beam with coils), or lower the rear. Any idea on who makes a lit for either?
Thanks,
Rick
I've been doing some thinking
What would I do with a 2wd dually Think air bags and 22"s
Nice huh
Looks like it's level to me