...Will do !! , i like the 302s , had alot of mustangs & trucks with them , great motor that responds well to upgrades....

 

Yes it does......I love the one in my truck.

 

I dont like the 302 in stock form b/c I need the truck to haul heavy loads and tow heavy things. The 302 revs way to high for this and doesnt make enough low end torque.

Ok so you can dump tons of cash into it and it performs, still doesnt have that lowend torque you want b/c it likes to sing at higher rpms imho. Gears, headers, intakes, etc are nice and do add power but your still trying to make the thing work to hard. Nab a 5.8L and you already have the power and you dont have to do a thing. Plus you get maybe 3-5 mpg better? Why bother...

I had a 5.0 F250, it had 3.73 gears and was a 4x4. I tried to tow 5000lbs and it was absolutely horrible. Had a 92 F250 with the inline 6 and ZF and it hauled better, had a 95 F250 with the 5.8L and imho besides the diesel it was the best of the bunch. I drove a 96 E250 with the 5.0 and it had about 1000lbs or so in and...it sucked...

Now if you just want a truck to beat around in, maybe go to home depot every so often and maybe tow something small a 5.0 may work for you.

 

Personally I would never replace a 4.9 with any V8 in one of these trucks........ you will never beat the reliability of what you already have stuck between the front fenders of that truck........

 

IMHO if you're going to continue to bitch about the 5.0 then why do you continue to purchase it knwoing it's not going to give you what you want.....I have 400 bucks in my "junk" motor. I have no trouble towing anything, catchin the wheels spinnin on DRY pavement, or dragging a CC longbed diesel out of a mudhole...with 3.55 gears. Each one of these engines has their place and everyone has their opinion on each one. Unfortunately your's is a nasty one time and time again. Do yourself a favor and instead of acting like a dick keep your mouth shut. You wanna tell someone that a particular engine is junk do it in a nicer way. Kinda like Patrick Swayze's motto in Roadhouse.

 

I have a little experience with both engines. If you are looking for something that can pull without hesitation then the 351 wins hands down. If your looking for a great DD then the 302 wins because of the mpg. I get around 12 mpg out of my 1989 f150 with a 351w/c6, while my dad gets around 17 with his 1992 f150 302/e40d. We pull car and cattle trailers, as well as various farm equipment and machines. We both head straight for my 351w when it comes to pulling. That being said, the 302 has completed the same tasks, just with a bit more drama. They are both great engines IMO, and are both very reliable. I think that if you are shooting for an upgrade, then I would suggest a 351w. I do not have experience with a 300, but I hear great things. I also hear that comparitively they will beat the 302 in towing, but this is just what I read. I hope that something I said can help you, I like to ramble a bit.

 

Ford made alot of diferent trucks with alot of motor choices , so everone has there own opinion , i have had the I 6 , 302 & 351 over the years & they all have there place, all depends on what you use them for . I don't have a problem with any of them , The I 6 & 351 do good with heavy loads , but lack in the higher rpms on the highway , the 302s have a lighter rotating assambely & make more power in the higher rpm range , but they can run 3000 rpm with ease , the gearing on these trucks have alot to do with it , alot of the 302s came with 308 - 355 gears that are great on the highway in a light truck , i like the lower gears in the 302 , you just need to keep them in there power band , the aftermarket support for the 302 is good , thats what i like , you can change them from a mild truck motor to a tire shreader....Lew

 

Yea, mine got cursed with a 3.31 open carrier.......love the 3.55 posi in it now. And the 302 aftermarket is one of my favorites as well, even though the Windsor is starting to get a big aftermarket itself.

 

i am also looking at swapping out my 4.9 to a 5.8. i have a 96 with 4.9 and a 5 speed tranny.
is it just the engine harness to the main plug on the fender that needs to be changed, or does all the wiring in the dash need to be swapped out as well? i would also assume the instrument panel needs to be swapped out as well, due to the tach?

 

My truck came with a 4r70w and i find that its just as strong as a e40d tranny. now that it has 230,000 miles it is starting to slip but it still getting the job done.

 

No you dont have to touch the dash (the Tach will work fine).. the engine wiring and the Computer is all that needs to be changed, just make sure you get everything from the same year truck or atleast what the interchange calls for on the harness as they did change pin placements in the bulkhead from year to year....

 

It's like this.

The 300 has good low end torque and poor top end power.

The 302 has good low end torque and good top end power.

The 351 has great low end torque and good top end power.

The 302 will kick tail with a 4.10 gear behind it. The 300 needs a good medium gear to give it power in both the low and top end. 3.55's work great. The 351 has lots of guts. A 3.55 gear is all it needs, too.

A built 300 will kick tail all day long in the low and top end. So will a built 302. A built 351 would rip a 300 and 302 in half.

It all depends on the gearing, transmissions, weight, use and if the engine is stock or not. Stock to stock, with 3.55's, I would prefer a 300 for a truck motor.

With all this said I love the 302. Aside from the 300 I would have a 302.

I'm a fan of Inline Six's, that's just me. I just think I6's are cool. I also like thinking my inline can keep up with the V8's as far as working the truck.

 

i was thinking the same thing. to swap to a 5.8l. my parents have a crate 351 in their 88e150 i would like to take out and swap it if they get rid of it. it only has 20k on it but just needs a minor rebuild cause its been sitting for years.

in my 93 f150 and 86 bronco i have the 4.9l and to be honest i beat the hell out of the one in the f150 and it keeps on going. i did swap 3.55ls gears into it and it does better.

im still debating on doing the swap cause the 300 is still a good motor and good for towing.

i did buy a 5.0l to swap in with a zf trans but the 5.0l needs everything redone including new heads but i might just junk the 5.0l and just stick the zf behind my 300.

 

That ZF trans behind a 300 with some decent gears in the rear is an awesome combination. 6cylBill can tell you a lot about which gears would be the way to go, I think he has done a couple swaps (at least one for sure). I won't tell you what to do with your truck, but if you were going to be pulling heavy loads for long distances, the 351 will do it easier, and faster. The 300 will have no problem moving a heavy load, just remember that it will take a little longer to get there.

(I am not a fan of the 302, the one in my dad's truck has given us a ton of trouble, and it only has about 130k miles on it..)

 

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