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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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Alliant AB code injectors

I was helping jacob_powerhouse on his project when I noticed that his injectors were Alliant Brand and were AB code. These injectors were installed by Ford, supposed to be a stock replacement job. Anyway this truck is not a california model. I thought that only SD and 97 cali's got the split shot injectors.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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your right. how does it run?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Well, it doesn't run at the moment seeing as it is out of the truck for several modifications. But it ran like a raped ape with his TW chip before.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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Maybe it was tuned for the injectors?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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CA emissions 96 models got AB's from the factory as well.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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No, it was tuned for stock injectors.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Codes- All powerstroke and T444Es come with A code injectors. A code injectors have a 6.0mm plunger and a 16mm intensifier piston. What this does is multiply the ICP so that injection pressure is adiquate but not having to have huge amounts of ICP like say in the 20,000 psi range. This difference give you approximately a 7:1 difference and therefore increases your injection pressure 7 psi for every 1 psi of ICP.

All DT466s and I530E injectors are B codes. Of those some DT466s and all I530Es have a 7.1mm plunger, hense more fuel per mm of stroke, with a 17.5mm intensifier piston. This gives you approximately a 6:1 ratio. So no it will not have quite as high of ICP as as the A codes but it's not as bad as it could be. However due to the larger intensifier piston they reqire much more high pressure oil to make the piston stroke the same distance. This is why you need a high pressure oil system with a higher capacity.

Hybrid injectors are taking the 7.1mm plunger and barrel out of a BD code I530E injector and installing it into an A code injector with a 16mm intensifier piston. As you could imagine the down fall is that the injection ratio is dropped to approximatly 5:1 further decreasing injection pressure. However with the smaller intensifier piston it requires no more oil than an equivilant A code yet it flows the same amount of fuel as a B code. The result is much more fuel capacity without the need for more high pressure oil volume.

A codes and B codes can be further broken down as well.

A and AA injectors came in the '94-'97 non-california trucks. They are all 90cc injectors and are single shots.

AB injectors came in the '97 cali, and all early '99 trucks. They are split shot injectors meaning they fire a small pilot shot before the main shot. These injectors flow 130-135cc of fuel.

AC injectors are found in the high torque version of the T444E and do not come in any Powerstrokes. They have the same internals as the AB injectors with the exception of the single shot plunger and barrel. However due to them being single shot injectors they flow 160cc. This is due to the way the split shots work. They have a small passage that opens, much like a port in a two stroke engine, that are uncovered that bypass the injection pressure out the side of the barrel instead of out the end through the nozzle. Because of this pause a portion of the travel of the plunger does nothing for injecting fuel so a split shot injects less fuel for the same amount of travel as a single shot.

AD injectors are also split shot but flow 135-140cc of fuel due to a slightly longer plunger stroke. These are found in all late '99-'03 Powerstrokes and T444Es.

AE and AF injectors are essentially the same as AD injectors but were called a long lead injector that was used as an attempt to cure a "cackle" issue many people complained about.

BA, BB, and BC injectors are essentiall all the same and are the same as AC injectors but are found in some DT466s.

BD injectors are the only B codes with the larger 7.1mm plunger and barrel that are single shot injectors. These are the injectors people are usually talking about when they are talking about putting I530E injectors in their Powerstrokes.

BE injectors are essentially the same as the AD injectors but found in some '97-'99 DT466s.

EF, BG, BI, BJ, BN and BP injectors all have basicly the same capacity and are split shots. However the nozzles vary on them depending on application. They can be found in many DT466s and I530Es.

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if this is correct i have early '99 split shot injectors or cal. injectors. if cowmilker08 would have gotten to stick around longer than 5 minutes he would have gotten the whole code. instead, that 5 minutes could have been spent installing your down pipe you have had for 3 weeks now.
the work great. they must have given more power and torque than stock. but they are not good enough ( throw 'em in the trash), stage 3 single shot with 175 hp added with a possiable 500+ rwhp.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Is it possible that the previous owner had put some stage 1's or something in the truck? My current stage 2's started their lives as AB codes from an E99. Now they are stage 2 singles so they work great in my OBS. just a thought. Splits on single shot tuning wouldn't run smooth
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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if cowmilker08 would have gotten to stick around longer than 5 minutes he would have gotten the whole code. instead, that 5 minutes could have been spent installing your down pipe you have had for 3 weeks now.
WTF is ur problem? If I remember correctly, you're the *** that couldn't figure out how to pull the injectors out! Excuse me for having more to do than go to HS <10 minutes away from home and then work on a truck or milk cows until its time to do it all over again. I got more important things to work on than an old truck. Like a college degree and an old house, sorry if I don't have enough hours in a day to please you.

What whole code? They are AB codes, the rest of the numbers don't matter.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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If the injectors had been replaced with remans at some time in the past, they could have simply been equipped with "AB" solenoids as they are all interchangeable.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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Ok, in the near future, I'm going to do an injector job.

Does it matter what A code injectors I put in my truck, as long as they are single shots, and as long as the #8 cylinder is an AE code? I've found AD injectors for about 70$/piece. I'm looking for power, but with a tuner, also be able to have better fuel economy on the highway.. I have no tuning, but just want to get the ball rolling. It's that, or rebuild the ones I have with 80% over stock nozzles, and P&B plungers..
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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There is no factory-built "single-shot" AE injector. A solenoid from an AE can be used on a remanufactured "single-shot", however.

With a 95-97 truck (as I assume you have due to your avatar), you don't need an AE anyway because of the fuel system that is stock on that particular model of truck.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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If your truck isn't a Cali model then you'll need tuning to run AD, AB,AE

With out any tuning you'll need AA or AO
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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If your truck isn't a Cali model then you'll need tuning to run AD, AB,AE

With out any tuning you'll need AA or AO
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
There is no factory-built "single-shot" AE injector. A solenoid from an AE can be used on a remanufactured "single-shot", however.

With a 95-97 truck (as I assume you have due to your avatar), you don't need an AE anyway because of the fuel system that is stock on that particular model of truck.
Yes, it's a 94.5 PS. I though I read somewhere the #8 cylinder was an AE injector though? I'm sorry this come's in a bad way, but I'm new to these kinds of injectors. I only know what I've seen and read.
 
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