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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Starter problem....

I just bought my 66 F100 and I am having problems with the starter! The problem is..... I "think" the flywheel is to big or my truck just has the wrong starter. So I went to checkers yesterday and bought a starter for a 66 F100 with a 352 and a 4 speed. So today I took out my OLD starter and it seems the flywheel has been grinding on the gear cup....or gear shield whatever you wanna call it. So I got the new one out of the box and matched thems up together and they are the same. So I tryed to bolt up the new one and it wouldnt bolt up right. And it seems that the new one is hitting on the flywheel as the old one did. Does anyone know if there is a ford part # I can cross to the right starter needed ?


Thanks.

PS The info on my truck is...

1966 F100
Engine: 352
Trans: 4 speed (on the floor) 435
2WD

I also gave the parts guy at checkers all the same info!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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The same flywheel was used in F100/350: 1965/67 352, 1968/76 360 (C5AZ6375K). It's the same diameter as the 1965/76 390 flywheel (C5AZ6375L), but the 390 uses an 11 1/2" clutch.

The same flywheels were also used in 1965/71 352/390 Passenger Cars.

The 3 hole FE starter is the same 1963/76 A/T or M/T = C3OZ11002C used on 1965/76 352/360/390 F100/350's / 1963/71: 352/360/390/406/410/427/428 Passenger Cars.

The starter drive (D6PZ11350A replaced C6VY11350A), the 184 tooth replaceable flywheel ring gear are also the same 1965/76.

This problem has existed for quite a while. You were prolly not informed of it by the seller, who may have been clueless, may not have been.

The teeth being worn down/chipped off the ring gear is not uncommon, ditto for the teeth of the starter drive...both occur...sooner or later, but...

IF the spacer plate is missing between the engine and the transmission...then there will be an alignment problem with the starter, starter drive and the flywheel's ring gear.

Or if the engines been swapped with something from a 1958/64 Passenger Car, that opens up a whole new can of worms. Different flywheels, starter (1958/62), starter drive and other stuff.

btw: I doubt the partsguy at Checkers knows much of anything. These so-called parts guys (with a few exceptions like FTE member AirHarley) are nothing more than ppl that can work a computer and that's about it.

These ppl have next to no experience with any old rolling piles of misery, regardless of what make it is.

Most parts for these old piles are not on computers, they are in printed parts catalogs...usually stuffed under the counter. Good luck getting the guy to actually look in one.

My BIL was the former CCO & VP of Checker. When O'Reilly's bought them out, he retired. He's the perfect candidate to work the parts counter in a chain autoparts store, because...

He knows less about vehicles, than a jackass knows about ice fishing!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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Thanks for the info bill.....tho both starter and flywheel gears are fine. But I will add that the top bolt hole tab was broken off the starter..... The spacer plate is between the trans and engine also....yeah the owner I got from didn't know a hole from the ground!!!
 
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