hpop swap
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hpop swap
hey guys so i got a 17* hpop to go on my farm/runaround truck im just wondering if there is a write up on what all i need to do the swap and how to do it or if someone can tell me what i need to do thanks
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...A+hpop+install
There ya go, thats what i used, hpop gear bolt torque is 95lb/ft IIRC, not 150 or whatever it said.
There ya go, thats what i used, hpop gear bolt torque is 95lb/ft IIRC, not 150 or whatever it said.
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Joey has a nice step by step picture for installing his Terminator, but you could follow the same steps for a regular 17 deg. You could also send the 17 deg pump to Joey and let him tweak it a bit before you did the install.
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If it's a 96 or 97 than either gasket works, if older than swap it all into the 15* pump. You should think about doin the IPR o-rings also
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okay so first of all thanks for all the help! i want to make sure i get all my homework done before i mess with one of the most important things on my motor lol but i dont really have the time for my truck to be down to send both the pumps to joey or else i would for sure. has anybody else swapped the guts in their own? i bet i can handle it if its not extremely technical just to swap them. also i guess is there anyway to tell exactly what year the one that is a 17* is off of via part numbers or something? i got the 17 from the previous owner of the truck but it might be a 15 that is allready swapped to a 17 cause he was a ford mechanic and i would assume he knew you had to change the guts. just want to make sure i dont tear anymore apart than i dont have to casue my truck is used pretty much daily. once again thanks for the help!
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BOBB, you can't just "Swap" the 17* pump in because the 95 pumps have a drainback valve. IF you put the later model 17* pump in without the drainback valve you will have hard start problems. All the oil will drain from the hpop rez. overnight. Joey can swap the guts of the 17* pump into the 95 case, then you are good to go. And just email him about it. It's waaaaaaaay less money than you are thinking. It's laughable actually.
No, you cannot swap the guts. You have to have specialty tools that are specific to these pumps. Believe me, I've tried. And no, your Ford mechanic buddy probably doesn't know about the inside of them either. Not being a jerk, just saying it's a rare few that have ever seen the guts of these things without cutting them apart.
Your on the right path, and you're doing great on your homework. All you need is a few days for Joey to fix your pump up for you, and you'd be good to go.
No, you cannot swap the guts. You have to have specialty tools that are specific to these pumps. Believe me, I've tried. And no, your Ford mechanic buddy probably doesn't know about the inside of them either. Not being a jerk, just saying it's a rare few that have ever seen the guts of these things without cutting them apart.
Your on the right path, and you're doing great on your homework. All you need is a few days for Joey to fix your pump up for you, and you'd be good to go.
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thanks rubberduck i will just talk to joey and figure out some time i dont need my truck i just meant i would like to find out if the po allready had the guts swapped by joey or someone like that cause i trust that it is a 17* but i never asked what case it was
