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Which power mods without headstuds?
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Which power mods without headstuds?
I have a 2007 PSD that is stock other than a Magnaflow turbo-back 4 in exhaust. I have a couple of questions.
First Question: What power mods can I do without putting headstuds in? I’ve thought about water/meth injection to start with. I’m more interested in decent daily driver and towing performance than “hot rodding.”
Second question: When I put my foot into the throttle from idle or just off idle the engine is slow to respond the input (2 maybe 3 seconds). The truck can barely get out of its own way sometimes. Is this the nature of turbo lag or could I have fuel supply issue such as clogged injectors or fuel filters that may need to be changed (about 20K miles on the fuel filters at this time)? I plan to change them this week anyway. I use fuel lubrication additives and cetane boosters. (Amsoil or Power Service)
Thanks in advance
First Question: What power mods can I do without putting headstuds in? I’ve thought about water/meth injection to start with. I’m more interested in decent daily driver and towing performance than “hot rodding.”
Second question: When I put my foot into the throttle from idle or just off idle the engine is slow to respond the input (2 maybe 3 seconds). The truck can barely get out of its own way sometimes. Is this the nature of turbo lag or could I have fuel supply issue such as clogged injectors or fuel filters that may need to be changed (about 20K miles on the fuel filters at this time)? I plan to change them this week anyway. I use fuel lubrication additives and cetane boosters. (Amsoil or Power Service)
Thanks in advance
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Hey Gunny,
Can't help on the first question since I have yet to take the power mod plunge but what you describe in question #2 is indeed the dreaded turbo lag. I bought my PSD (also a 2007) just a few months ago and the lag drove me nuts until I got used to it. Scared the **** out of me the first time I pulled out to make a left turn in front of oncoming traffic and the truck wouldn't go. You learn ways to adapt your driving style after awhile and its not so bad.
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Can't help on the first question since I have yet to take the power mod plunge but what you describe in question #2 is indeed the dreaded turbo lag. I bought my PSD (also a 2007) just a few months ago and the lag drove me nuts until I got used to it. Scared the **** out of me the first time I pulled out to make a left turn in front of oncoming traffic and the truck wouldn't go. You learn ways to adapt your driving style after awhile and its not so bad.
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Assuming you are okay with that, custom tunes are the way to go. You can even get tunes to help with the turbo lag, and not add power.
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2007's are the worst for turbo lag.
The only thing that fixed it on mine was custom tuning.
It's based on Ford's trying to keep within EPA regs for ALL users, even those who do not take care of their engines/trucks. (you know the types; those who change their oil every 50,000 miles, never change fuel filters, etc...)
-blaine
The only thing that fixed it on mine was custom tuning.
It's based on Ford's trying to keep within EPA regs for ALL users, even those who do not take care of their engines/trucks. (you know the types; those who change their oil every 50,000 miles, never change fuel filters, etc...)
-blaine
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ya my 06 was a lagaholic also ( before tunning )
crazy they ever sold any after a test drive ?
I remember testing an 08 and it was laggy also
crazy they ever sold any after a test drive ?
I remember testing an 08 and it was laggy also
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Just want to add, the custom tune provider should advise you as to which of their tunes are suitable for non-studded trucks.
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Which, I think, accounts for so many of us going "I HATE THIS LAG!!"
-blaine
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Thanks for all of your inputs. Guess the water/meth is out for now. I'd drop the money for the headstuds without think twice about it. It's selling the expense to my wife that's the barrier. In fact she'll just mess with me and say "sure get the headstuds, you'll have to take it out of your account for that overpriced toyhauler you want to carry your Harley around in, and by the way that means no more buying chrome for the Harley either."
Yeah I'm screwed.
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Yeah I'm screwed.
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Tuning will help, but I'd think about having your FICM tuned. I had intake, exhaust, and custom tunes from Innovative, and still had some noticeable lag. I sent the FICM off for reprogramming, and DAMN! PHP did mine. Pretty much wiped all the lag out. It's not really a power adder, but for as much fun as it added to the drivability, I didn't care. For the $125 it cost me, it has been the best upgrade yet. Shouldn't cause any head stud issues. Oh, and I also got 2mpg gain on winter blend. 
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Nobody can answer that with certainty. You might have head bolt issues without any power adders. Adding power increases your chances of having problems. You just have to accept the risk. If you want more power, you assume greater risk.
Assuming you are okay with that, custom tunes are the way to go. You can even get tunes to help with the turbo lag, and not add power.
Assuming you are okay with that, custom tunes are the way to go. You can even get tunes to help with the turbo lag, and not add power.
Couldn't he just use water injection for EGT control and as a "safe" power adder if he doesn't use meth??? I'm studded, but that would be my next "power adder" if I do anything else to my truck. I have plenty of fuel--LOL.