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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Need Tires That Will Last

I've got an '06 Lariat 4x2 SuperCrew truck that has the 265/60R18 tires on it. It came from the factory with BF Goodrich Long Trail T/A tires on it, but they only lasted 18K miles before they were down to the wear bars. I replaced them with some Cooper Discoverers, and after just 24K miles they are also down to the wear bars. The tires are all wearing evenly, as I keep everything rotated and aligned on a regular basis. I'm apparently just hard on tires. My driving is approximately 50/50 between city/highway, with no off-road driving. I don't regularly haul or pull anything.

Has anyone else had these kinds of problems with wearing out tires so quickly? Anyone have any recommendations for tires that might have a bit longer tread life?

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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armour's have some great reviews. They are going to be my next tire. One good thing about them is that they have a 50,000 mile treadlife guarantee.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Sounds like you are putting the wrong load range for the tire on your truck. Its either that or you are peeling out and burning the rubber off like crazy. The 265/60/18 in the tires you are using should last more like 50k. What you want to make sure is that you are having Load Range E tires being installed and not Load Range D tires. Some places don't know the difference or don't think there is a difference.

Personally I would avoid the BFG's but that's me. Tons of people swear by them and they are a quality tire I just don't like them. The Cooper not a bad tire at all and should of lasted longer for you. With no off-road driving at all you have a lot of options that you can try and should last a long time for you. Just a few off the top of my head you could try Toyo, Yokohama, or Nittos. They all should have a LR E tire in the size you want.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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I am very aprehensive about opening this can of worms again - ah, what the heck. My Michelin LTX M/S tires have 72, 000 miles on them and have not reached the wear bars yet. I will be replacing them in a few weeks, only because they are not as sticky as they used to be. Michelin does not make that exact tire anymore - so I will be installing the LTX M/S II - which has a 70,000 mile treadwear warranty.

I drive a lot of hard highway miles and a lot of very hard city miles. I do quite a bit of off road (gravel roads) driving as well.

Running the 275/60 /R20's, it is a pretty good chunk of change ($1,400.00 a set), but It is very cost effective.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Sako 75, are you currently running the 275/65-R20's? If so, how do you like the "fit"? Are they load range E? That's the size I am considering for my next replacement. Currently running 275/60-R20 Load Range D Goodyear Wrangler S/A.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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Hi there tooldad,

This is a load range E tire with a speed rating of T.

LTX M/S | Michelin Tires

The tire fits great - stands 33" high (when new). they are down to a little over 32" now. With my current wheel setup, the extend just a fraction of an inch outside of the wells. Excellent comfort and drive - I won't buy anything else. BTW they are 275/60/20's. In order to get the 65 - you have to go to their off road tire. I spend way too much time on the interstate - I like a quiet tire.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Sorry, blind, thought I read 275/65's (35"). I am struggling on deciding between the LTX M/S and the A/T myself and whether to stick with the 275/60's.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tooldad
Sorry, blind, thought I read 275/65's (35"). I am struggling on deciding between the LTX M/S and the A/T myself and whether to stick with the 275/60's.
No, you read correctly. It was my mistake - I had to go back and edit.

I prefer the LTX M/S because of the wear abiltiy and traction ratings. I travel quite a bit for work (and pleasure) and I really like the wet weather traction. They are very sticky tires. Here in East Tennessee, they don't crown the roads much (due to all of the hills and mountains) and if you catch yourself in a sudden downpour, hydroplaning can be a problem for the A/T.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBullitt
Has anyone else had these kinds of problems with wearing out tires so quickly? Anyone have any recommendations for tires that might have a bit longer tread life?

Thanks!
I have a theory about this. Factory tires are brand substandard tires. BF Goodrich, Continental, Pirreli, etc all provide they're "branded" tires to the car manufactures...but they are not the same tires you get at Sears/Discount/Sams. How did I come up with this theory? 1) I've never had a set of stock tires go as long as their treadwear warrenty claims. The tire manufacture will not honor it on factory tires. 2) I purchased the exact same tires for my '01 Expy when the factory tires wore out at 20K miles (Continental Grabbers, they looked real good on the car and discount had a special). I didn't change my driving habits at all and they lasted 60K miles. Same tire, size, rating, everything. Hence my theory that tire manufactures provide the car manufactures substandard tires. Think about it...Ford probably only pays them cut rate.

Oh, and yes, Michelins go forever. I put some on my wifes '06 Expy and 60K miles later they're still not down to the bars.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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My stock tires that I just removed from my truck had 52k and probably could have gone with no troubles until next spring but I was installing a leveling kit so I wanted them changed. Now my stock tire was a Goodyear Wrangler ATS so not a bad tire at all but would not of been my choice.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Life of tires has alot to do with the truck weight and type. For example, I have the same tires on two trucks one is a Tacoma reg cab 4 cylinder 2wd, the other is my 05 Supercrew 4x4 they both have Bridgestone Duler AT's. They have been on the Tacoma for what seems like for ever and are wearing very well, I have 50k on them. On my F150 I have 7k and they are worn as much as they are on the Tacoma. I would give them a good review on the Tacoma and a bad one for the F150. On my old truck a 2500hd diesel, I had Yokahoma Geolander AT-S, I put 30k on those tires before I sold the truck and they were less than half way to the wear bars. Good traction and I should have gone back with those on the F150 I think.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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I swear by my Michelin LTX MS2's. Had GY ATS that went 65K+ but were noisy as hell. The Michelins are very quiet and have a 70K treadwear warranty.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rodinator1234
Life of tires has alot to do with the truck weight and type. For example, I have the same tires on two trucks one is a Tacoma reg cab 4 cylinder 2wd, the other is my 05 Supercrew 4x4 they both have Bridgestone Duler AT's. They have been on the Tacoma for what seems like for ever and are wearing very well, I have 50k on them. On my F150 I have 7k and they are worn as much as they are on the Tacoma. I would give them a good review on the Tacoma and a bad one for the F150. On my old truck a 2500hd diesel, I had Yokahoma Geolander AT-S, I put 30k on those tires before I sold the truck and they were less than half way to the wear bars. Good traction and I should have gone back with those on the F150 I think.

This is both true and false. If you put the correct load range of tire on the truck then yes it will last for the right amount of time and should wear correctly. But when you install a tire on a truck and the load range is too low for that tire then it will wear out very quickly. Its a handy thing to know because not all tire salesmen know enough about the products they sell to make sure they order the correct tire. I always check behind them to see that they did.

In your case you put two sets of tires on 2 very different trucks but installed them both with load range D tires most likely so they will of course not wear the same. Just a wild guess but I am going to say you installed either the 285/70/17's or the 265/70/16's.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Michelin LTX MS2 is what you need. Tires have a 70,000 mile warranty...from Michelin themselves. Last set were BFG rugged trails, got thirty thousand out of them and split three open. Two offroad and one on highway. Switched to Michelin LTX AT2, which has slightly more offroad tread pattern, same tire as MS2 though. Got them for around $220/tire(275/65/18). Some of our Forest Service government rigs have them and they are the best that we have, and I see a lot of tires, all shapes and sizes, get abused.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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i am running hankook tires on my navigator, and the have 20k on them now. they still look like new. i only paid $136 ea installed. we had a set of hankook on our parts truck(04 f150 reg. cab 4x2) and they got like 90k.
 
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