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Old 05-15-2013, 06:49 PM
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Well, almost Excursion related...
Gonna have to drive it tomorrow, been fighting the F350 for the last two days. Thought it was bad fuel, or fuel related, but after Heet, Injector cleaner, new fuel filter, new fuel and for good measure a new PCV, the truck is still missing under load. Really bad below 2000 RPM. Had a co-worker put his scanner on it, but with no CEL, there were no codes to read, and all the other readings (O2, Cats, etc) was showing great!
Sooooo, I think that I have a COP going bad...

Any good Ideas how to tell which one?

Thanks!
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by garryk6
Well, almost Excursion related...
Gonna have to drive it tomorrow, been fighting the F350 for the last two days. Thought it was bad fuel, or fuel related, but after Heet, Injector cleaner, new fuel filter, new fuel and for good measure a new PCV, the truck is still missing under load. Really bad below 2000 RPM. Had a co-worker put his scanner on it, but with no CEL, there were no codes to read, and all the other readings (O2, Cats, etc) was showing great!
Sooooo, I think that I have a COP going bad...

Any good Ideas how to tell which one?

Thanks!
Garry
Don't think it's the COP if it's only missing under load. How does it idle? A bad COP won't provide a spark, and that's going to be constant regardless of engine load. Your COPs could care less about engine loading, they just step up voltage. Also it's not uncommon on these trucks to have no CEL but trouble codes present; non-OBD-II compliant trucks will never set a CEL for a misfire.

If it's misfiring at idle you just have to unplug them one by one until you don't hear a difference. That one is your bad COP, because it wasn't working before or after you unplug it.
 
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Originally Posted by acf6
Had my 35x12.5x17 toyo MTs mounted/balanced today...and holy crap is it just me or is this a LOT of balancing pieces?

Take it back and cause a fuss! They have the weights across from each other! Must have been the floor sweeper/gopher substituting for the resident balancer......lol.
 
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why cant you put weights 180 degrees from each other? That must be some kind of record on manifold stud removal time!
Because it's the same as no weights. That is without a doubt the worse balance job I have ever seen.
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:12 PM
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Because it's the same as no weights.
Not quite.

I remember when I worked at a tire shop in high school...the balancer indicates required weights for the inside and outside of the wheel. Sounds to me like the balancer thought that the inside and outside of the wheels were 180 degrees out of balance.
 
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Originally Posted by garryk6
Well, almost Excursion related...
Gonna have to drive it tomorrow, been fighting the F350 for the last two days. Thought it was bad fuel, or fuel related, but after Heet, Injector cleaner, new fuel filter, new fuel and for good measure a new PCV, the truck is still missing under load. Really bad below 2000 RPM. Had a co-worker put his scanner on it, but with no CEL, there were no codes to read, and all the other readings (O2, Cats, etc) was showing great!
Sooooo, I think that I have a COP going bad...

Any good Ideas how to tell which one?

Thanks!
Garry
How about the plugs and boots? Those boots short out if you look at them funny. Also you can unplug one cop at a time while someone is watching the tach when it is idling.
 
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Installed. Have to finish snugging bolts up, been chasing my one year old around the yard, and trying to do this at the same time. Lol.
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Not quite.

I remember when I worked at a tire shop in high school...the balancer indicates required weights for the inside and outside of the wheel. Sounds to me like the balancer thought that the inside and outside of the wheels were 180 degrees out of balance.
Quite.........
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:23 PM
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In other news, extractor wouldn't grab hold good enought to get the stud out. So I took the welder after it one more time. This time, I started in the hole that I had drilled for the extractor, than did as normal and filled up so I could get the nut welded on, and bam.

It's out.

Total time about 4 hrs work to remove manifolds and studs.
All I got to say is...
YOU SUCK!
And well Congrats!

Stewart don't ban hammer me for my potty mouth, but HOLY cow - must be a me curse, everything is harder for me..
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:27 PM
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Ummm, potty mouth? Where? For saying what?

Puh-leeeeez, Christina..."you suck" aint nothing.

Stewart
 
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Theres no way in hell im going back to that place, the only time i do will be to return the 5 pounds of lead on my wheels after i have them professionally balanced
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:32 PM
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Theres no way in hell im going back to that place, the only time i do will be to return the 5 pounds of lead on my wheels after i have them professionally balanced
Which Town Fair was it? The one right next to my office?

They screwed it up, they should fix it. You paid for it to be made right, no sense in paying for it twice.
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:37 PM
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Well Uncle Sam finally paid me back. Just ordered some Rancho 9000s. I went with rs999273 for the front and rs999275 for the rear. Those were recommended by the Rancho site sponsor since I have the v codes in the front and very soon new b codes in the rear. Also will be ordering the newer style tow mirrors when they get back in stock next week.
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:38 PM
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Ummm, potty mouth? Where? For saying what?

Puh-leeeeez, Christina..."you suck" aint nothing.

Stewart
Ha ok, I always try to watch my mouth cus I am a red neck. Should hear me in the garage! But good to know I can tell someone they "suck" and not get in the crapper.

Dave - glad it went well for you but please tell me the secret to welding? The welds I tried might as well as been bubble gum, nothing would stick.
 
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:43 PM
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Theres no way in hell im going back to that place, the only time i do will be to return the 5 pounds of lead on my wheels after i have them professionally balanced
I'm with you. I might demand my money back but they wouldn't touch my wheels or truck again. That isn't rocket science that's simple math, morons! Had mine done just a few weeks ago, all my weights are in the center of the rims, so tells me it was just high or low spots, no lateral issues of any major degree. That's probably the worst wheel weight picture I've ever seen. WOW!
 


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