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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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I have a 2004 Ford Excursion 6.0 with 70,000 miles and have a problem. We recently went on vacation, fueled up on the way home and didn't drive it for about a month. I got in it the other day and driving down the road, it fell on its face. I had the pedal to the floor and it just stalled out, spittin and sputterin and then finally took off. Since then, it has done it a few times. I have changed all of the fuel filters and religiously use additive. What could this be? Is it bad fuel or do I have a problem?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Do you have any lights...CEL (Check Engine Light) or WIF (water in fuel) on the dash? Do you have anyway to check for soft codes...those that won't through a light. Drain your HFCM and see if your getting water or diesel. Shouldn't get more than about a pint or two of fuel out of the HFCM...even with a full fuel tank. There are a couple of things it could be...but a little more information would be helpful.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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egr maybe?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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No light codes. Drained the HFCM with little water. I have a buddy coming over this weekend with a reader to check for codes. I bought the excursion new and my wife rarely drives it, mainly used for vacations and during football season. Could not driving it more than a 500 miles a month be harmful on it?
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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BAD FUEL?????

What are the symptoms of a bad EGR? If bad, what kind of $ am I looking at
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Got Boost? Sticking turbo...
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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No light codes. Drained the HFCM with little water. I have a buddy coming over this weekend with a reader to check for codes. I bought the excursion new and my wife rarely drives it, mainly used for vacations and during football season. Could not driving it more than a 500 miles a month be harmful on it?
That could be your problem...when was the last time you worked it? To qoute another FTE member..."an Italian tune-up once a month". I'd still go ahead and check for codes and clean the EGR first before replacing it. But then my wife says my wallet squeaks when it opens.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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when it was sputtering was it making a popping noise briefly losing power, im gonna go with Sammy and say sticky turbo, its common among 6.0l that are not driven hard and or often, did u notice u were going up hill or only under hard throttle did u have a trailer, mine did it on the way out to the dunes with a trailer and when I unhooked the trailer it only did it on occasion progressively getting worse, until I had it replaced, the codes it gave me was something like not enough EGR flow, and something with boost malfunction, but no check engine light
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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I drove it again this weekend, it did it again but only for a few seconds. No popping noise before losing power. I ran the dog &*!@ out of it and never lost power again. Should this motor be ran alot more than my wife or I drive it? In my opinion this is a "classic" and want to keep the miles off of it if possible.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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I drove it again this weekend, it did it again but only for a few seconds. No popping noise before losing power. I ran the dog &*!@ out of it and never lost power again. Should this motor be ran alot more than my wife or I drive it? In my opinion this is a "classic" and want to keep the miles off of it if possible.
You should be able to get away with driving it once in a 10-14 day period...but when you do, you need to DRIVE it. Things like the vanes on the turbo need to be "flexed" to keep them free from rust/soot. I'm not saying run it like a dog all the time. But at least once a month...once the motor is up to operating temp (after 10-15 minutes of driving) lay down on the skinny pedal a couple of times until the exhaust start to blow rather clear. Don't worry about blowing the engine up...the PCM will keep you from destroying it. You'll notice the first time it's very dark (soot)...after a pass or two it will be noticeably cleaner after that. These engines will live a long life if they're (A) maintained with the right filters & fuild and (B) worked from time to time. If you wanted something to put up as a collectible you might have been better off with a '08 GT500.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Does anybody have an additive they recommend? I have always used Lucas.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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you need something with not only a cetane inprover, but also a fuel stabilizer for something that sits as much as you have described.
i use the john deere diesel fuel additive, which is blended for them by stanadyne. i know nothing about the lucas product but i know stanadyne is considered as the gold standard as far as diesel fuel additives go.
 
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