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Old 08-03-2010, 01:30 PM
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In the process of changing the rear spring bushing on my 51 F1 I removed the springs to drive out the old bushings. The problem is after cleaning, I notices that the top leaf (the one with the bushing in it) on one of the springs was flat. That is it doesn't have the same arch in it like the other spring.

Apparently the leaf has lost it's arch.

Do I now have to buy two new rear springs at $300.00 each or can I locate that top/long leaf?

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Old 08-03-2010, 02:14 PM
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some times you can have a spring re-arched. before i took it in. separate the springs and see if they ring when hit or if they went went soft making the mane spring work harder. some one else will probably have a different opinion and may be better.
 
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Old 08-03-2010, 04:08 PM
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Re-arching is a term which applies to steel leaf springs only. Once fiberglass or composite springs loses their ability to support weight, nothing can be done to salvage them.
Also nothing can be done to salvage tired coil springs.
The re-arching process results in the spring being brought back to it's original free arch. There are 2 ways of re-arching a spring. But only one correct way.
The most popular method is to use either a hammer or a press to change the arch. This is known as "cold setting". This is the method used by most shops.
Using the "cold setting" method will result in a short term fix. Spring steel has a memory and unless this memory is erased the spring will return to the height it was prior to it being raised and will happen even without weight on the spring.
Cold setting is not an acceptable way to re-arch a spring.
The only acceptable method of re-arching starts by erasing the spring's memory. This is done by annealing, then reshaping and finally re-heat treating each leaf in the spring.
In order to anneal a spring it must first be taken apart. Then each leaf is visually inspected for signs of fatigue.(see below)
Then each leaf is blasted to remove all paint, rust or whatever and re-inspected.
If the leaves are OK then each leaf is heated to at least 1,650 degrees Fahrenheit.
Once heated the leaf is placed on a pattern which has the correct shape and arch.
Once re-shaped the leaf is quenched in special oil to quickly cool it. The heating and quick cooling process results in a leaf which is too hard or brittle to be a spring.
So the leaf is then re-heated to at least 950 degrees for a set amount of time drawing out some of the hardness.
Once cooled the leaves are then shot peened to relieve stress.
The final product is a properly tempered re-arched, re-heat treated spring.
We are one of the few companies with the ability and equipment required to perform this operation.
There are some considerations to be made prior to having springs re-arched.

First is cost. Re-arching is at a premium above the price of new springs. Minimum charge for re-arching is $225.00 per spring assembly. Add to this the price of new bushings, liners, clips, labor to re-assemble them and shipping costs. No, the old parts cannot be reused.
However, if you have a straight axle Corvette or any other car with original style grooved steel, the cost is well worth it to maintain originality because this type steel is no longer made.
Second consideration is the condition of the springs.
  1. Are any leaves broken?
  2. Are the leaves separating towards the ends?
  3. Are there pit marks on the flat sides of the leaves? The pit marks can look like small rust spots.
  4. Are there lines like those on the palm of your hand running across the flat sides of the leafs?
If your springs show any of these conditions, they would not be candidates for re-arching.
 
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Old 08-03-2010, 06:06 PM
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Thanks for that informative tutorial.Is there any way to find someone in my area who will do it correctly,an association,or are there questions to ask of a potential shop?
 




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