HELP Guys!!! Plug Extractor Broke! Update....
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HELP Guys!!! Plug Extractor Broke! Update....
2006 F150 w/5.4- Changing plugs out today, got 5 out that broke using the
Push/extractor tool and on the 6th one, while turning it out the threads rung/broke off into the plug tip. So now i have the end of the extractor (maybe 3 or so threads) and the remainder of the plug stuck in the head!!!
Open to all ideas/suggestions and/or some good ole American/Shade tree
ingenuity on how to get it out.
Thanks in advance.
Push/extractor tool and on the 6th one, while turning it out the threads rung/broke off into the plug tip. So now i have the end of the extractor (maybe 3 or so threads) and the remainder of the plug stuck in the head!!!
Open to all ideas/suggestions and/or some good ole American/Shade tree
ingenuity on how to get it out.
Thanks in advance.
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I've been wrecking my brain through the night!! Why/how did it break is a main thought and how to get is out!! My ideas so far....
1. Thread the pusher part of the tool into the head, that woyld protect the head threads and also give direct center access to the plug tube left in the head. Maybe then, with some sort of tool (pick,small screw driver, ect?) to work the broke piece of extractor out or maybe drill it. But not to damage the housing where i can't get another/better extractor in there.
2. With the new tool...use the "pusher" to continue and try and push it on down father so as to gain a freas area for the new extractor to grab. I think i need to make sure the piston is down in case i by chance push it that far and the other thing is...if this would work, i then would have to figure on getting debris out of the cylinder that may fall down in there.
All thoughts are welcome......
1. Thread the pusher part of the tool into the head, that woyld protect the head threads and also give direct center access to the plug tube left in the head. Maybe then, with some sort of tool (pick,small screw driver, ect?) to work the broke piece of extractor out or maybe drill it. But not to damage the housing where i can't get another/better extractor in there.
2. With the new tool...use the "pusher" to continue and try and push it on down father so as to gain a freas area for the new extractor to grab. I think i need to make sure the piston is down in case i by chance push it that far and the other thing is...if this would work, i then would have to figure on getting debris out of the cylinder that may fall down in there.
All thoughts are welcome......
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Thanks, Greatly appreciate any help.
Got a new tool today and got the other two broken plugs out, so all plugs are out.
I would now basically be done except for the extractor being broke off in cylinder #3!!!!!!!
Got a new tool today and got the other two broken plugs out, so all plugs are out.
I would now basically be done except for the extractor being broke off in cylinder #3!!!!!!!
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Sharpen a punch and break the piece in the plug. The metal is very hard and brittle and will shatter pretty easily. You might want to take the PCM out for more room. I have seen it done a few times with no problems.
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Maybe find a small magnet on a cable so you could swipe it around the lower side of the cylinder wall / piston top would be nice, one permanently and securely attached to a cable?
Maybe a small fiber optic viewer to looksee in there?
Just asking, he still has the head on?
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Breaking it up with a sharp punch sounds like the best attack. I'm going to try and use the pusher body to line it up so i'm dead on as possible and not to damage the threads or wall.
So 70f100longbody...you have heard/seen of one of these tools do this???
Also, since none of the plug material is magnetic, what's the best way to get some of that out, like some of the plug tip and porcelain?
Greatly appreciate your thought guys.
So 70f100longbody...you have heard/seen of one of these tools do this???
Also, since none of the plug material is magnetic, what's the best way to get some of that out, like some of the plug tip and porcelain?
Greatly appreciate your thought guys.
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I have heard of others on here use a shop vac with a small length of flexible tubing duct taped to the nozzle. Fish the tube through the plug hole and sweep out the non-magnetic material. For extra piece of mind, I agree that a fiber optic camera would be real handy to have a look in the cylinder prior to buttoning it up with a fresh plug.
Best of luck.
Best of luck.
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Thank You 70f100longbed!!!!!!!!!!! got a 8 1/2" punch today ( thank you Harbour Freight), sharpened it on the bench grinder. Used the body pusher as a guide so as not to mess the threads or head up, hammered the punch in and eventually broke out the extractor, retrieved the pieces with a magnet and after much PRAYER and forcefull persuation got the new extractor started and pulled the plug tip...WOW!!!! What a nerve racking ordeal!!
Now to get the pieces out of all the cylinders.
Thanks again 70f100longbed and all the other guys input.
Now to get the pieces out of all the cylinders.
Thanks again 70f100longbed and all the other guys input.
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Glad it worked out.
Yes, the magnet was for pieces of tap or tool that were broken with the punch.
Getting the other stuff, small hose with vac but it'll stop up easily / often if there's much in there.
Yes, the magnet was for pieces of tap or tool that were broken with the punch.
Getting the other stuff, small hose with vac but it'll stop up easily / often if there's much in there.
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I used the biggest size surgical hose I could get to fit easily through the sparkplug hole. I found that the auto hoses just were not as flexible as I wanted. I took a spark plug with me to the hobby store and used it to size the hose. You want to be able to move it in and out and twist it about to get to the edges of the piston without kinking. Tape seal it to the shopvac and go to it. The bore scope will be great to continue checking to make sure you get all the pieces.
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