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Old 11-27-2001, 03:18 PM
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The other night I test drove the new Escalade. All I can say it is WOW very nice truck. It made me think about trading my Expy ?
Dont get me wrong I love my truck and I hate those chebys/gmc.
Also the Escalade is very expensive 53g. The dealer had
22inch rims on this Escalade with 305/45/22 tires for an extra 5g

But unless Ford starts building the Thunder or adding much much more
hp to there trucks I am leaning towards the Escalade.

It has 345hp and 380 trq stock. Not even a SUPERCHARGED EXPY
has thoses numbers. The Caddy is also doing high 14 in 1/4 mile
and that stock from factory.

Okay so maybe a supercharged Expy will pull close to a stock Escalade, but what happends if the Escalade it also supercharge ?

Tell me what you Expy owner think? Please tell me I am doing the
wrong thing in trading my Expy.

Should I just wait to 2003 for a more powerful EXPY ?

 
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Old 11-27-2001, 08:06 PM
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Not bashing here, but I cannot make myself like the exterior of the Escalade. I think they made it look too much like a Cadillac car. I understand carrying over the lineage and looks, but I think they could have given it more of a unique look. As far as HP goes, I am sure for the ~15k - 20k difference in price you could stomp those performance numbers in the ground with the aftermarket world, saving a few bucks and keeping the truck we have all come to be so happy with. I don't know if I could spend 53k on a vehicle and feel as guiltless as I do when I run through the woods or mountains with it. Just an opinion, and I know we all have them


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Old 11-28-2001, 09:39 AM
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Greg's got it here. IMHO, Cadillac is WAAAAAAAAY off base with its Art&Science styling. It just plain looks like crap. And for $15k, you ought to be able to do an engine swap, plopping in a Ford V-10 turbo diesel with enough aftermarket stuff on it to pull 6 Escalades backwards, up hill on a sheet of ice thru the woods in a snow storm. Sure you won't beat it to 60 mph. But that would be about it. Let's face it, the Escalade is a gussied-up Yukon for the idle rich. No more likely to see a spec of wet pavement than it is a dirt road or a load from Home Depot, let alone any more snow than what is on the road to Breckenridge.



 
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Call me silly, but, aren't both of these things called "trucks"? Personally, who cares what the 0-60 time is, I ask what can they haul. I just don't see someone buying an Escalade to haul a 6,000 pound trailer, or like what was mentioned, taking it out 4x4ing. Personally, I watch the torque numbers as that is what gives you the grunt off the line, not horsepower (hp is for maintaining speed, torque gets you changing speed-big misconception that a lot of people have). I personally have loaded a ton (literally) of 1 man rock into the back of my X (yes, I know it "overloaded" the truck), but, it handled it just fine. Can you see someone doing that with an Escalade?

Personally speaking, if you want the performance, go with a Volvo (still Ford as I recall) stationwagon S70, about the same person hauling ability, much better 0-60 times and it is still not something that everyone has.

But if you are dead set of having a truck, I would stick with the X, take that $15K and look into aftermarket stuff. For $15K, you can easily get 500 hp (supercharger, larger fuel injectors, upgraded fuel pump, 4.11 gears, dual exhaust, superchip-all for about $7K, still gives you $8K for a really nice entertainment system). WIth 500 hp, you can smoke all 4 tires off the line (can the Escalade do that?)

Enjoy, Chris "Thermo" Coleman
 
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