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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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4 Speed Issues

I am experiencing issues with my 86 4x4 300 I-6. I was coming home from work today and crusing in 4th gear at about 50 on a down hill slope. I leveled off the throttle and started hearing what sounded to be gears grinding together. When I stepped on the gas, it was like the truck was in neutral instead of 4th. I pushed in the clutch, pulled to the middle and stopped. I put the truck in 2nd to go again, and when I let out on the clutch, it sound like gears grinding and it went no where. As I got further out on the clutch, it "caught" and jerked a little and started moving. I drove the rest of the way home without issue. When I left a little while later, it did it again as I was coasting up to a stop sign and pushed the shifter into 3rd. I pulled it back out and pushed it back into third and it caught again.

What could be causing this to happen?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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If I interperet things right, you probably have bearing issues in the trans. I think main shaft bearings. I would drain the gear oil and check for metal particles. Could also possibly be syncronizer rings failing. Whatever, it deserves a thorough look see and possible tear down. Just my thoughts and opinion. OBCB
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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oh no...Let us know what you find.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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There are sometimes some good guys in the tranny forum, you might ask there, too.
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Will do. I'm going to post it over on the Tranny Forum as you suggested and see what I get. I hesitate to take it anywhere until I kind of know what is going on. I don't mind putting a little money in it since it only cost me $500 bucks.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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It would help to know what four speed you have as well.

It could be a simple as a clutch, to the main drive gear being stripped.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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How do I find out what transmission I have?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Post the trans code on the certification lable located on the drivers "B" pillar, just below the door striker bolt. One of us can decode it from that code.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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This is what is says on the certification label inside the drivers door...

WB=117, Type GVW=F141, Body=DD4, Trans=A, Axle=18, Spring=C
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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In 1981, a code of A is a New Process Manual 4-speed, I'm guessing an NP435 is what you
have but you might want to confirm that with the tranny guide posted above.

Discovered anything more with this problem? I personally don't know how it could be the clutch
that's causing this....
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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I'm going to crawl under the truck in the morning to see if it looks like the NP435. I'm sure you are right, but I'll update you once I find out.

Thanks for the hint.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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I'm sure you are right
But, I'm not. I looked it up in my 1981 factory shop manual, and I don't trust the codes
to have not changed over the years....
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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If it is the NP435, it is one of the easiest ones to rebuild. Have you also checked the T/C?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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No, I haven't. I'm not sure of the mileage on the truck, it says 63,000 miles, so it could be 163000, or 263000, not sure, but I'm guessing 163000 due to who I purchased it from and how often they drove it. It actually sat for 3 years prior to my buying it.

When you say it's the easiest to rebuild, does that mean it doesn't cost very much to rebuild?
 
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