I am using a '93 351W with an AOD trans.
I am going to get the trans tonight and its out of a '92 van behind a 351W also.
He says its electronically shifted he thinks, cause its got an electrical connector on it. now I know it should have the neutral safety switch and back up light stuff. but is he right? I mean if it is shifted electronically is there something that is done to remedy that or what does the AODE connections look like? need to know quick! so I don't buy something I can't use. If I can talk to ya, send me a PM with your number and I will call ya! or just post here! Thanks in Advance! Jeff

 

Not an expert but here is the problem, as far as I am aware Ford never put the AOD behind a 351. I would have thought that if it comes off of a 351 the trans would be an E4OD which needs a computer to work, either stock or a stand alone one.
Like I say not an expert though.

 

There's massive amounts of info on the AOD on the internet and here

I'd suggest you do a little research and study/get familiar with the transmission and engine, how they work, and any shortcomings.

I would also be tempted to find a shop manual for 93 Fords so you have some type of book referene for your year engine and transmission

 

Ford AOD transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't think the 92 or 93 is AODE based on the above..

course Bauman can make anything work!!..
An Introduction to the Ford AOD-E/4R70W and AOD Automatic Transmissions - Baumann Electronic Controls, LLC

Sam

 

aod has wiring from the speed sensor on the transmission to the vehicle eic, neutral safety switch, back up lights, its not a computer controlled transmission.

 

All input being read and also researching it on the net. Thank You All! I asked the seller if the van had a OD button on the end of the shifter and he said no. thats a good sign...also asked if he still had the van for the steering column and the van is gone...oh well! there are others!

 

Howdy,


The AODE IS an electronically controlled transmission. If you use a FORD ECM (assuming you're using a 300, 302, 351, etc with FORD EFI) you might be able to use it. (Some or most of the Ford ECM's control the fuel injection and transmission)

Otherwise you'll need a control "box" similar to this one by Baumann Electronic Controls. I am using an E4OD bolted to the back of my 292 Y-block for my 55 F-600 restoration. (pics in my gallery) I'm also using the Baumann controller for an E4OD.

If you do this, you WILL need some sort of control box like above, a throttle position sensor (if you use a carb), and some sort of electronic speed sensor.

It will be somewhat more expensive but you'll have the ability to program all your shift points (up/down including OD and TC lockup) with a laptop computer.


regards,


Rick

 

Jeff,

As you've probably read by now, the AOD-E and 4R70W are both electronically shifted decendants of the AOD and are similar in appearance. There are a couple giveaways and quick things to check to differentiate between them. The later transmissions will have a large rectangular or squarish plug with about a dozen wires or so in it for all the sensors and solenoids. They will also only have just the single, solitary shifter lever on the left side. The AOD will have a small 3/4" round plug on the left side with only 4 or 5 wires for the neutral safety and reverse light switch. Where the later trannies will only have one shift lever, the AOD will have the shift lever and also the throttle valve lever.

As Lazy K mentioned, it's not common to find an AOD behind a 351W in a stock application. The only stock app. with this combo that I'm aware of is the mid 80's Crown Vic with the police package. But there's lots that I don't know. Normally, the 351W was only found in the trucks after the birth of the OD transmissions and would have been paired with the heavy duty E4OD 4-speed electronic OD transmission. It's a monster and looks nothing like the AOD and its variants.

The AOD-E and 4R70W are great transmissions too, but the electronics package necessary to run them is not cheap. For a carbed engine, the all-hydraulic AOD is a much simpler and less expensive choice.

Shop carefully and have fun!

 

this van was supposed to be a '92 and he said it was a 5.8L but you know how it is. I will have to see it myself before I make an offer on it.
What would be behind a 5.8l for a trans in a 92 van? I will have to look at it. thank you all!

 

More than likely, it will be an E4OD. I parted out a '90 with a 5.8L and that's what was in it.

 

I'll agree with that. It was also used all the way up to the F450 Superduty! And was also used behind the diesels and 460!

Here's an E4OD bolted to my 292 Y-block.........it's going in my 55 F-600!

 

Yeah ok...it was a wild goose chase...my guess is E4OD...
In fact after looking at the previous post, it was an E4OD

 

jeff i'll send ya my cuz billy's name and number { if the short head will answer ! } . he can answer your questions on the transmissions . as i said he's a shop / transportation manager at coke here , but worked as the ford guy for all trans for years . don't let the stand alone 'putor throw you from using an aode as they are good transmissions . not to mention being able to be a lockup or non lockup converter trans .

 

I went to car-part.com which is a salvage yard search engine and the following are tranny options for a 92 Ford Fullsize van


A.T., AOD, 10-1/4" ext hsg
A.T., AOD, 11-1/4" ext hsg
A.T., C6, 8-460 (7.5L), ID F1FP-DA & EA
A.T., E4OD, 6-300 (4.9L), ID F2TP-BA
A.T., E4OD, 6-300 (4.9L), ID F2UP-DA & DC
A.T., E4OD, 8-351 (5.8L), ID F2TP-FA
A.T., E4OD, 8-351 (5.8L), ID F2UP-EA, EB & EC
A.T., E4OD, 6-300 (4.9L), ID F0TP-FA & GA
A.T., E4OD, 6-300 (4.9L), ID F0UP-FA & GA
A.T., E4OD, 8-351 (5.8L), ID F0TP-AA & EA
A.T., E4OD, 8-351 (5.8L), ID F0UP-EA & HA
A.T., C6, 8-460 (7.5L), ID F2FP-DA
A.T., C6, 8-460 (7.5L), ID PJD-CE6
A.T., C6, 8-460 (7.5L), ID PJD-CF6
A.T., E4OD, 8-445 (7.3L, diesel)
A.T., C6, 6-300 (4.9L), w/o ID F2FP-BA; w/o ID F2UP-CA
A.T., C6, 8-302 (5.0L), w/o ID F2UP-CA
A.T., C6, 8-351 (5.8L), w/o ID F2UP-CA
A.T., C6, 6-300 (4.9L), w/o ID F2FP-BA; ID F2UP-CA
A.T., C6, 8-302 (5.0L), ID F2UP-CA
A.T., C6, 8-351 (5.8L), ID F2UP-CA
A.T., C6, 8-460 (7.5L), ID F2FP-CA
A.T., C6, 6-300 (4.9L), ID F2FP-BA
A.T., E4OD, 8-460 (7.5L)


So it is possible for it to be an AOD. Just for info sake

 

If I was going to put an auto trans in an F-100 I would probably do the AOD since it does have a "taller" OD (0.67:1).


If I was going to put it in an F250/350 (or bigger!!) for towing, hauling....and since the E4OD is used in big trucks and even motor homes etc..........I'd do the E4OD.....(like I'm doing)...


OTOH, I will also say that my neighbor has an 85 F-250 4x4 with a seriously tricked 351 and equally tricked AOD(non-electronic) trans installed.