Right there, you are proving yourself different from the owner in the OP......

One way or the other, the whole thing started because the dog owner brought it on himself. Hey, you know I'M not necessarily happy with the way things turned out either........But........If that owner was more like you, the cops would probably never have even met the dog.....

And right there....proving that the cops maybe act a little different in your neck of the woods.......

Sorry, man....I set up that scenario whenever I hear the old 'I'd kick that SOB's **** if he ever did something like that to me or mine'.........My first thought is usually 'are you the type to put yourself in that type of situation to begin with'?........

In your case.....No. The kid trespassed on your property into your yard (I'm guessing fenced.....or maybe a tether at least anyway), antagonized said pooch....and got bit. Tough luck, kid......don't do that s--t anymore.......

Well, ya know....he didn't look like all that much to me either......But my general point still stands about looks being deceiving.........

Had a kid in the marines (Beaufort, SC).....5'7".......Maybe 150 soaking wet......Spent most of the time just joking around and trying to pick up chicks (like the rest of us...).....Not much to look at really........He un-assed this 6' + 'roid' monster one night in about 2 seconds flat and pounded his *** silly. Turns out he wrestled in High School and college and was just plain tough.........Glad he was on my side.....

Got some MMA guys working in my Division. Aside from being fit as Hell.....Can't really tell by looking at them.....and by their attitudes....that they spent time pounding guys (and getting pounded) in the ring.......

I'm not lecturing. I'm positive you know all this crap already. I was just making a general point.

Again....I'm not necessarily happy with the outcome either.

Regarding verbal abuse.....It's been awhile since I heard the word 'pig'......But some jackass called me and my partner 'big swine as we were leaving....I'm surprised that silly SOB even knew what a swine was....

I don't agree with this......or at least I disagree (because I really don't know), but looking at the video......I just don't see any joy, or even satisfaction.......And if the guy was so sure and decisive in doing this, again.....why the comedy with the dog? Why spend all that time effing around trying to get the stick on him? After all, it would look better if you shot the dog while it was loose, rather than putting a collar on him.

And you guys DID notice, didn't you, the way the cruiser camera was situated? They made sure the event was captured on camera. Why do this if planning some scheme? Like shooting someone's pet?

Sorry, guys.....While I may disagree with the ultimate decision....I just don't see 'big man', or 'power trip', or whatever with this incident. Agree to disagree...OK?

Regarding Websthes and/or Opossum assuming I'm taking a different tack just because the guy is a cop....Well.....Let me just say that they're just a little full of s--t..............Respectfully full of s--t, that is......Sorry....

Peace

 

Ya know there was a time when "cop" was an insult also. And do you really wanna drag me back into this again?

Once at peace, now in flux

 

Actually....'peace'......

Shoulda just targeted Webs with that point.

 

The fact this cop did not realize what he was doing was wrong does not fill me with confidence. If it was a criminal act, he could plead insanity.



If that was the case, we wouldn't need police officers.

 

That doesn't make any sence, just what are you arguing here?

It comes to mind that the ultimate respnsibility for this whole thing lies with the mayor. He/she is the one that apoints the police chief and likely is responsible for them not having the training or animal control officers/equipment.

 

Steve wants to blame the dog's owner. I agree the dog's owner is responsible. But this does not excuse how the police handled the situation.

The whole point of having poilce is so ordinary citizens don't have to take the law into their own hands, but can call a professional to deal with these kinds of situations. If cops are unable to conduct themselves as professionals, and resort to excessive force, then this defeats the purpose of having a police force in the first place.

 

Actually, Webs....I mostly agree with what you're saying here. It also goes back to my original point of having a properly trained and equiped ANIMAL CONTROL unit.....to handle situations like you posted in the OP.....

Inadequate county budgets are a bich, huh?

I wasn't so much 'hi-fiving' the actual shooting, as I was protesting the assumptions about evil 'intent' or 'power-tripping'........on the part of the officers......I still protest that and don't see it that way.

 

I wonder what he would have done if he caught me jay walking?

 

The video is pretty disturbing Steve. The video of the teenaged girl being assaulted in a jail cell is another example of cop rage. I don't think is due to a lack of funding or training, but a culture of brutality and self-righteousness.

I'm not going to give cops a free pass because they provide a vital service. That's their job, to come when people need help, if they can't do their job, we'll find someone else. Once they cross that line, and start beating up teenage girls or tasering someone for not hanging up their phone, they're no better than the criminals and should be dealt with accordingly.

 

This is a cop out, ha ha pun, and you know it. Keep in mind that this was a police department, even if the whole city police department is 3 officers where is the Sheriffs department. I can't be absolutly sure about local law but in almost every city and county in the US they share overlaping jurisdictions and when it becomes an issue the Sheriff is the top LE in any county.

Believe me it pains me to make this argument becasue our Sherriffs department here in King County(Seattle) is way more crooked and abusive then most of the local police departments in the same area including Seattle PD. Case in point the video in another thread of the officer punching that girl who we basically all agreed was fine, was Seattle PD and the department handled it well and promptly. But the deputy beating up that girl in the cell was County in the exact same area and that was swept under the rug and Seattle PD can't do ****e about it becasue the county has higher jurisdiction.

Anyone, mostly you Steve who is curious about the power and proper role of the Sheriff should grab a copy of Sheriff Richerd Mack's book County Sheriff America's Last Hope. Or just look him up, he's all over Youtube and a great man.

Agreed, I have made the argument many times that LEO's need to be the best amoung us, and we cannot allow any compromises in their integrity, in order for our legal system to work it must be trusted, open and watched closely. And ANY appearance of abuse or corruption must be delt with promtly and harshly. Without that it will grow fast like an agressive cancer and kill our legal system through the perceptions of the people and their resistance to it. We have this cancer now, it's evidence is everywhere and it will kill us soon if we don't cut it out.

 

ok that angered me quite a bit.that dog posed zero threat.to be honest if i would have seen that in person it probably would not have been good at all.i would have been going to jail or been tazed.now im by far a tree hugger i live to hunt ,but that was someones pet.i hold my dogs very dear and they are like family to me.that was uncalled for and way unnecessary.i think the guy should be prosecuted just the same as a normal citizen.now if i had a dog turn mean i have no use for it i would shoot it myself and have done it in the past.but the dog was laying down and sitting on the road just kinda hanging out til they put the noose on it.what would you do with something tied around your neck?i have plenty of law enforcement friends and family so in no way is this a rage against police its a rage against 2 individuals for pulling a stunt like that.one for the shooting and the other for allowing it.

 

.... i dont have much to say about this.

I vote - "Cop was wrong to shoot the dog.. should be fired and arrested for animal abuse"

Hands down, cop should get his.

 

So, a cop who joins a group you belong to is okay, but cops who don't join deserve your contempt and doubt?

What are you going to do if the cop who shot the dog is a member of your group?

 

Are there any updates to what happened to the cop?

 

aspca should not say anything about animal abuse. they kill 99.9% of the animals they take in for "protection"