Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Auto Dim Mirror

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 10, 2010 | 05:02 PM
  #1  
watergate528's Avatar
watergate528
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: NW-Ohio
Smile Auto Dim Mirror

Picked up an auto dim mirror out of a 94 F150.

Looking for a wiring diagram for the 3 wire plug in.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2010 | 09:21 PM
  #2  
danr1's Avatar
danr1
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,670
Likes: 12
From: Sand Lake, MI
I'm gonna bump ya back to the top before you drop off the first page.

I didn't know a 94 had such a mirror and my book makes no mention of it whatsoever.

Best bets probably gonna be Subford, if anyone can answer your question here I'm fairly sure he can.
 
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2010 | 09:26 PM
  #3  
watergate528's Avatar
watergate528
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: NW-Ohio
Appreciate the bump. Pulled this out of a 94 F150 XLt Super cab.
Wiring is.......Blk/Pink.........Blk........Wht./Purple

Also pulled an identical unit out of a 96 Dodge 1/2 ton.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 06:38 AM
  #4  
TexasGuy001's Avatar
TexasGuy001
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 11,955
Likes: 226
The only trucks of our era that i have seen with that mirror are Bronco's. Was the truck an EB?
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:01 AM
  #5  
danr1's Avatar
danr1
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,670
Likes: 12
From: Sand Lake, MI
Wiring is.......Blk/Pink.........Blk........Wht./Purple

Just the three?

Might be able to answer your question if you post what exactly the mirror can do, must be more then auto dimming mirror to have a third wire?

Lets assume the black is a ground for the moment, would stand to reason (sometimes that's of no help though!!).

You said it has the auto dim feature, ok that would need power? That be one of the Blk/Pink or Wht./Purple wires and the black.

What else does it do? A button to turn on/off the auto head lights?

If so one is a switched circuit for a relay? testing each combination for continuity on/off while activating that switch should give you the answer. One of the Blk/Pink or Wht./Purple wires with the black wire for example.

Third wire for a temp sensor perhaps?

Opening the mirror case up might also give you more clues as to what wire goes to/does what?
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:06 AM
  #6  
jimjoebob99's Avatar
jimjoebob99
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 322
Likes: 1
From: St. Petersburg, FL
Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
The only trucks of our era that i have seen with that mirror are Bronco's. Was the truck an EB?
My truck didn't have the mirror when I bought it but I have the pigtail hanging down for it. It is an EB too though and I've been on the lookout for one to put it back in the truck.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:16 AM
  #7  
danr1's Avatar
danr1
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,670
Likes: 12
From: Sand Lake, MI
Originally Posted by jimjoebob99
My truck didn't have the mirror when I bought it but I have the pigtail hanging down for it. It is an EB too though and I've been on the lookout for one to put it back in the truck.
Your wires at the pigtail the same color as his?

If so maybe you could test your pigtails circuits for power and continuity to ground, that would or should get em two out of three?
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:24 AM
  #8  
jimjoebob99's Avatar
jimjoebob99
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 322
Likes: 1
From: St. Petersburg, FL
I'll have to go out and take a look. I'll let you know!

Thinking about it in my mind though, (only speculation) one is the ground. One might come from the headlight switch to dim the mirror manually. The last one might have constant power, hooked in series within the mirror to a light sensor so when someone comes up behind you with their brights on it will dim the mirror automatically. I'm not sure though as it's been a long time since i've seen the factory mirror and don't know where they would have the sensor. They might have a hole in the reflective coating in the corner or something so light can pass through. Again only speculation. lol.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:32 AM
  #9  
danr1's Avatar
danr1
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,670
Likes: 12
From: Sand Lake, MI
hole in the reflective coating in the corner or something so light can pass through

Yea exactly, that's the way the wife's last couple cars mirrors do it.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:32 AM
  #10  
subford's Avatar
subford
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 23,666
Likes: 300
From: Easton,Ks
I have already sent him a wiring diagram of the circuit.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:58 AM
  #11  
jimjoebob99's Avatar
jimjoebob99
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 322
Likes: 1
From: St. Petersburg, FL
Subford strikes with the good info again! Just out of curiosity, was I close to being right with the wires? I need to find me one of those mirrors and hook it up. The last one I seen at the junkyard was out of a 95 EB bronco but it was laying in a puddle on the floorboard and didn't want to chance it. lol.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:17 AM
  #12  
subford's Avatar
subford
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 23,666
Likes: 300
From: Easton,Ks
Here is the diagram:

/
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:28 AM
  #13  
jimjoebob99's Avatar
jimjoebob99
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 322
Likes: 1
From: St. Petersburg, FL
Intersting. From what I can see, it's sending power to the mirror when you engage Reverse. I wonder if powering the mirror is what makes it more reflective because I would assume that you would want full reflectivity when in reverse. The other lead is hot, probably going through the light sensor. If the same rules would apply to it, I wonder if it gets dim when you turn the power to the truck off. It might also be so subtle that you would never notice it in the daylight. I guess i'll just have to get one and see. Thanks Bill!
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:30 AM
  #14  
watergate528's Avatar
watergate528
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: NW-Ohio
Thanks again Subford. There is a small dot in the center of the glass....also an on/off switch on the bottom of the mirror casing.
 
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 09:33 AM
  #15  
subford's Avatar
subford
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 23,666
Likes: 300
From: Easton,Ks
Mirror, Inside, Electronic Day/Night, F-Series and Bronco

The electronic day/night mirror changes from the normal state to the non-glare state when glare reaches the inside rear view mirror (17700). This inside rear view mirror mainly functions at night, with limited function at dusk or dawn.

From the non-glare state, the inside rear view mirror will return to the normal state after a short delay. The delay starts when glare goes away, and prevents excessive changing of the inside rear view mirror as traffic moves behind and around the vehicle, or on rolling hills and curves.

The electronic mirror also measures the brightness of the light in front of the vehicle. It automatically makes a correction in the glare state. The automatic function of the inside rear view mirror may be turned off by pushing the switch to the OFF position. It may be turned off in either the normal or non-glare state.


There are two light sensors (photocells) in the inside rear view mirror. The sensor that detects rear glare is located inside a window in the center of the inside rear view mirror. The second light sensor, which determines outside light level, is located on the backside of the inside rear view mirror case.

The inside rear view mirror automatically locks in the normal state whenever the vehicle is placed in REVERSE. This feature makes sure the view in the inside rear view mirror is clear and bright when backing up.


/
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:47 AM.