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Old 06-04-2010, 02:47 PM
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I recently bought a 96 F-250 2wd regular cab, LWB with 110,000 miles. It has a vibration when I brake normally anytime I'm going faster than 40 MPH. The whole truck shakes. The harder I brake, the more it shakes. If I brake lightly the vibration is less or non-existent. The vibration frequency seems to be higher (maybe double) the tire's rotation speed. It's hard to really tell where the vibration is coming from. There is also a slight vibration at highway speeds that I assume is a tire balance issue.

The brake pedal does not pulsate, the steering wheel doesn't vibrate and it's not that ABS feeling you get when the rear wheels lock up.

When I bought the truck I knew it needed radius arm bushings, which I replaced. I also replaced the front shocks, which were original. I repacked and preloaded the front wheel bearings as well. The vibration has not changed, however.

I checked the both front rotor's runout (less than 0.002") and thickness variation (less than 0.001"). I have 3" rear drums, which I haven't looked at yet. I have tried the unsafe maneuver of stopping the truck with the rear (emergency) brakes from 60 MPH and it was as smooth as silk.

I also visually inspected all the usual front-end suspects (tie rod, drag link, ball joints) and everything seems tight. There is considerable play in the steering wheel, though. I don't know if the steering box may be worn out or need adjusting.

Before I go spend $800 on new tires (it needs front tires anyway) and an alignment, I wonder if anyone out there has had a similar problem. The guy at Sears told me that if my front rotors are glazed, this could cause the problem.

Thanks in advance!
Mike
 
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:07 PM
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Other than looking at your back brakes, you've mentioned everything I would have suggested you check. However, locking up the back brakes is different than applying them progressively, if you follow my meaning. Could be you have a drum out of round. I would definitely check the rear brakes before anything else. The only other thing I wonder about is the front end. You said the steering is loose. Maybe your tie rod ends or ball joints are shot.
 
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:59 PM
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Thanks for your reply Todd. When I used the emergency brake, I didn't lock the back brakes up - I slowed down 'normally'. I had an alignment done today after checking the front end out myself. Other than the toe being a degree or two off, everything was fine and tight.

I'm going to pull the drums tomorrow and get them turned. I'll probably replace the rear shocks while I'm under there.
 
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:49 PM
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A clutch will do the same thing as well if it is glazed and isn't surfaced before putting a new one on. So, that could be a possibility too. I'd look into that if turning the drums doesn't work either.
 
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I'd honestly get new drums. They are cheap enough now and it'd just be easier.
 
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Thanks everyone for your help. I bit the bullet and got 4 new tires. The vibration is all but gone now. I imagine one of the drums may be slightly out of round but it's hardly noticeable now. Taking the drums off the 8600 GVW F-250 is a pretty major project... not the same as an F-150.

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