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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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ok so i went and got the original alt checked out at advanced auto and it tested fun. so i dont think the problem is battery or alternator. what else is in the loop. is there a regulator or fuse somehwere?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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what is the pigtail kit? will it replace a group of wires. ? or plugs?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fishpimp
12.44v not running 12.33 volts running. that is 2nd new alternator from autozone.

If you have only 12.3 volts when running at the battery, and the alternator is working then you have a bad connection between B+ on the alternator and the battery. Measure at B+ on the alternator. If you have 12.3 there, then there is still something wrong with the alternator or regulator. I don't know on your year where the regulator is but on later models it is part of the alternator.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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B= in the thicker wire on the alt? does that go straight to the battery? or to the starter?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Pigtail.

Ford Alternator Pigtail 1996+ Gray Housing - The Repair Connector Store
 
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fishpimp
B= in the thicker wire on the alt? does that go straight to the battery? or to the starter?
You'll have to look at how it's routed. It's the big wire and it does get back to the positive of the battery. It may go to the starter first and then directly to the battery, or most likely it goes directly to the battery. But, make the voltage measurement first. A volt meter is a valuable tool - you need to use it instead of shotgunning things!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fishpimp
12.44v not running 12.33 volts running. that is 2nd new alternator from autozone.
The alternator is not charging. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't charge, except that the regulator is bad or the big wire from the alternator to the battery is bad. I THINK the sense wire not supplying voltage to the regulator would make it go full charge (don't remember, it's been a while) so that's not the problem.

The big wire from the alternator goes to the starter relay/solenoid on the inner fender near the battery, I think.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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So I took volt meter and was checking continuity. If I go from b+ on alt to either pos or neg of battery meter beeps. Short? I think I found regulater....some corosion on it...... need to check starter too
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Is there a way to test regulator
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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The regulator is on the back of the alternator.

If you go from B+ on the alternator to the + term of the battery, with volt meter on "OHMS" what does it say?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fishpimp
Is there a way to test regulator

Very simple.

Remove the regulator from inside the casing.

Then, simply place in this testing machine:






Next, place it in this container:









Now, if the regulator somehow made its way back to your alternator on its own, it test good.


If it stays in the can, it test bad.



Unless you have the equipment --- high priced electronics testers ---- you are much better off to throw out what is a $5 part.

Good regulators at retail sell for a pittance.


Why bother?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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So I get the same voltage at the b+ pn alt as I do at battery. It looks like the thick alt wire goes to atarter solenoid then to battery. Can I hook it straight to battery. Shld I be getting a higher voltage if I put voltmeter on b+ alt with truck running
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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It is time to post some pics.

No idea what you are really doing.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fishpimp
So I get the same voltage at the b+ pn alt as I do at battery. It looks like the thick alt wire goes to atarter solenoid then to battery. Can I hook it straight to battery. Shld I be getting a higher voltage if I put voltmeter on b+ alt with truck running
You have to check the resistance (ohms) between the B+ at the alt and the + at the battery.

But I don't think that's your problem.

Either there's something wrong with the alternator, or the sense wire to the alt is disconnected.

If you look at the schematic below, it's for a 2001, but should be the same for your 1999.

The "fusible link c" provides sense voltage to the regulator so it can monitor battery voltage.

HOWEVER, if you notice, it says something about "with voltage applied to the I circuit" which I take to mean that the battery light HAS TO BE THERE.

When you first turn the key to ON, without starting the engine, does the battery light come on?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
HOWEVER, if you notice, it says something about "with voltage applied to the I circuit" which I take to mean that the battery light HAS TO BE THERE.

When you first turn the key to ON, without starting the engine, does the battery light come on?

The key-

The "I" circuit cannot have "full power", but has to be loaded with a resistor and the Battery light.

It is an exciter for the rectifier --- without about 8 to 9V there (not more) the alternator does nothing.

I still say it is a pigtail problem.
 
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