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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Dana 44 or 50?

I've searched here and around the web and have yet to come up with an answer for my question. I have a 1986 f250 4X4 with the 6.9 and the C6. My door tag says 8600 GVWR and 3850 GAWR for the front. I have 2 piston front calipers and no idea rears. Which diff do I have, the 44HD or the 50?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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How large is the front hubs? Tiny compared to hole in the center of the wheel, or fill it up pretty good.
Big hub (~4") = D50, tiny hub (~3.25") = D44. IIRC.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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They're measuring at 3.25" So I guess the 44. we need to get a definitive axle list for the front. I've seen its a diesel, its a d50. or the GAWR is 3850 its a d44.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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Small hubs are always a D44. Larger hubs can be either the D50 TTB or the D60 solid. But it's pretty easy to tell the difference between the 50 & 60......
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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yea i'd say so, solid axle versus TTB garbage. That's a thought/plan for another day.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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and im guessing they are 19 spline? or are they something else?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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Not sure what spline they are. I've heard the D44"HD" isn't really mush different than the 1/2 ton D44 internally. The HD basicly just indicates that it has leafs and 8 lugs.
I'm not 100% sure that the D50 uses the bigger hubs, but that's what I remember from reading an artical somewhere. If I'm wrong, someone will surely correct me.
Personally, I don't think the TTB should have ever been used under a diesel. That's one heavy critter.....
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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well warn only shows one hub kit for that year for the light duty F250. Does having the D44 mean its light duty?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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D44 should mean light duty but your GVW says otherwise.
under your door tag it should also say what your front axle GAWR is.
Should be ~4400 lbs if its a 50
Dana 50 also takes the same hub as the D60

FWIW i've never seen a light duty F250 with a diesel, I've also never seen a 44HD in a F250HD.
That doesnt mean its not possible though.. they did make some wierd combos in the early to mid 80's imho
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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nope front GAWR is 3850. Maybe the front springs are not as shot as i thought. what spline count are the d44's?
 
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You have the dana 44 hd front axle. They came standard on the f250 trucks, unless it was a extended cab f250, which had the dana 50ttb, it was special ordered with the dana 50 ttb, or it is a f350, which got the dana 50 ttb till 85.5. It doesn not matter what engine it had.

Don't worry, your dana 44 ttb is not trash, and your truck is not getting ready to crash to the ground from the weight of the diesel engine. I have the dana 44 ttb with a 4 inch lift, 35 inch tires, and a 7.5 ft snowplow, diesel engine, and I have not had any problems with mine. I don't plow commercially though, just a few driveways and one parking lot. Last year during the last big snow we had, I actually broke the plow, not the axle.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to have a dana 60 frontend, but all the hype about the ttb axles being "terrible" have driven the price of a dana 60 to around $1000.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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Franklin, was I correct about the D50 using the larger hubs? I seem to recall seeing that info somewhere, but have never been 100% sure about it's acurracy.
I know the D60 has them.
 
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Yes, the dana 50 ttb uses the same hubs as the dana 60. The dana 50 ttb outer components can actually be swapped onto the dana 60. They use the same knuckles, brakes, hubs, etc.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Thank you sir. I was only 90% sure, but I know you are extremely knowledgeable, and I take your word to the bank.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. Do either of you know the spline count on my D44? and is it a big gear, reverse gear...etc
 
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