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Old May 13, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Yeah, i just figured that out, thanks. What kind of IPR %'s should we be seeing?
At idle IPR duty cycle should be about 10-15% and an accelerator pedal position reading also at about 10-15%. At WOT or wide open throttle ICP DC should not 65% with ICP not below 1800PSI and Accelerator pedal position between 70-80%.

If you can scan these items from a stop you should expect to see somewhat of a linear slope. Especially check the accelerator pedal reading to ensure it matches what you or doing on the go pedal. If that is not reading correctly you cannot expect any of the others to respond to the desired input correctly.

An electrical gremlim can really screw this up because the truck is fly by wire if you will. Besides checking the things already recommended here, make sure your voltage is not dropping off as you accelerate. This could also cause relays to click. Good luck.

Edit: Expect a linear slope is not entirely correct. It is if you ease into the pedal for the TPS reading. Expect DC and ICP to jump from here to there in order to accelerate the truck, then level off to what is require to maintain demand from the TPS or how much go pedal you are giving it. Hope this makes sense now.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Mechanic buddy just called. He was checking for water at the fuel bowl and took a sample of the fuel. He said it isn't diesel. Smells like gas. Makes some sense. I filled up on Monday night, didn't drive on Tuesday. Then all this started on Wednesday morning. I wouldve had to not only use the wrong pump, but also push the "gas" button in order to have made this mistake. I can't imagine I would've done that. The tank was almost empty and I put in $75 worth of fuel. Mechanic says the truck probably wouldn't be running at all if it was straight gas like that. So I am leaning towards contaminated diesel at the station.

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Old May 13, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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UPDATE

Well, finally spoke with someone at the fuel company. Their tanker driver put gas in the diesel tanks and diesel in the gas tanks at the fuel station I went to. So there are a lot of people being affected right now because this is a very busy station. I really feel for not only the other customers, but the company. I'm sure this is really hard for them and it may impact them financially quite severely.

So, I don't know right now how much of a percentage of gas is in my truck. My mechanic is draining the tank and going to put fresh diesel in it. We feel like the best thing we can do is get the gas out of the system so the seals and rings and everything else aren't soaking in gasoline.

The part that really sucks for me is I know how **** I am about my truck. From this point forward, everytime I hear a noise that is out of the ordinary I am going to freak out because I won't know truly how much damage was done. We estimated about a total of 30 miles driven with the mixture of fuels in the system. Here's hoping this won't turn into a lengthy process, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Thats one huge mess-up by the gas supplier. Hope they take care of any cost this will end up costing you Bob.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Thanks Glenn. I guess my question now is, how can I be sure I identify any and all damage that may have been done? I mean, I would think I'd have to check the injectors, all the seals, o-rings, pistons, anything else that would've come in contact or been affected by being submersed in gasoline. That's going to take a lot of time and money. Not to mention that this truck is our source of vacations since we always vacation in the RV and this truck is our tow rig. Our next trip is planned for Memorial Day weekend.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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I think you'll be ok, Bob. I've seen dozens of those "delicate" Duramax injectors ingest a lot of gasoline......they were fine.

I think you'll be ok.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Have you contacted the station to find out what they are doing for the owners of the damaged vehicles? I'd be looking to get a brand new motor out of the deal for sure.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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I have only spoken with the secretary of the guy in charge of the situation. He is supposed to call me back, but understandably he is real busy right now. She said he worked until 2:30am last night. Like I said before, I do feel for the company. One mistake by an employee is going to cost them a lot. But I don't feel so bad for them that I won't be making sure I get taken care of. Right now I'm just concerned this is going to take a long time.

Thanks for the words of encouragement Cody. And also for talking with me yesterday on the phone. I am sure that 99% of the time there is no real damage done, but I also know that I am going to be real worried because that's just my nature.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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I agree 100% with Cody.
You'll be fine.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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I spoke with the guy who is going to make sure I get taken care of. He was very nice and I think that they will do whatever needs to be done to fix any damage. The question I have is is there anything you guys would have checked under these circumstances? My mechanic is putting fresh diesel in and said that unless I noticed performance issues I should be fine. My concern is having a problem a year from now that we could've caught if we spent a little more time looking into it now. Thanks for the help.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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Have the mechanic drop the tank and clean it out. While he's there, have him do the in tank mods for you. Flush the lines, change the filter and you're done.

If gas was going to damage something, it would have already done so. You'd notice if you had a bad injector. If you're worried, remove your chip and let the mechanic run a cylinder contribution test as a check up.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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Im going to be doing the in-tank soon. Have a kit on the way. Can I get a fuel filter from autozone or advance? They're the only ones open this late and I need to drive my truck tomorrow.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Yes you can get a filter there. If they have the motorcraft brand, I'd spring for it. Pay attention to weather the new filter comes with a lid attached and weather your existing filter has a lid attached. If your lid is loose, don't throw it away if the new one comes with a lid. If your existing lid is attached and you don't have a loose lid laying around, you'll need to get one with the lid.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Thanks Chris. Im familiar with the lids.
 
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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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holy crap

i gotta say..... your taking it well. i would have exploded and gone crazy on the idiot who mixed it up...
 
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