Was to my favorite parts yard on Friday to try and get parts for Joey's truck. I got the power steering sector, Power brakes with proportioning valve and the steering column. That was half the battle. I want to put disc brakes on and I'm not sure if what they told me will work is correct. Is there a site where I can obtain info on what will cross over to accomplish what I want?

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It always helps to know what yr truck Joey has and what mods you are trying to make to it to get useful info to questions like this.

 

I don’t know where AX is coming from, everybody knows Joeys truck and what will fit it!

So, (still not knowing what year or make of anything) by steering sector do you mean steering box? The only conversion I’m aware of for 48-51 f1 is a Toyota box. (SEARCH) Most any steering column can be made to fit, as well most brake booster with associate hardware including the petal mechanism, the prop valves are weight designed for the donor vehicle. I didn’t hear what they said about disc breaks and you didn’t say either but to the best of my knowledge there is no OEM part that converts to disc brakes, lots of after market ones though, would this be to a straight axle or?

To the best of my knowledge there is no one site that gives a direct interchange that this fits this or will work, to many variables. There are many posts in this site and on the web that give specific info on individual modifications. (SEARCH)

Note to all newbies (and others): We want and like to help you and will share what we think we know, but please put as much info as possible in your questions, it increases your chance of getting a answer which is your reason for asking it in the first place.
(If you can not be bothered to give the year and model then I’m not going to bother to look it up in your cp even if it is there).

Needed more coffee!

 

Joey, make sure all your grounds are good!

 

Brake Differential Proportioning Valves will be found on all 1967 and later F100/350's (and everything else) with dual master cylinders. These valves are specific to drum or disc brakes.

Disc brakes: Optional on 1968/72 F250 2WD's and F350's. Standard equipment beginning in 1973 on F100/250 2WD's & F350's / 1975 F150 2WD's / 1976 F100/250 4WD's / 1979 F350 4WD's.

There are myriad different types. The valves used in 1967 are...1967 only. Some 1973/79 F100's have do not have power disc brakes, as it was an option.

Power Steering: Available as a dealer installed accessory on 1958/64 F100/250 2WD's. These units are super rare.

No P/S was available in 1965 F100/350's. No P/S was available in F350's until mid-year 1969.

1966/68 F100/250 2WD's and 1969 F100/250 2WD's before serial number D96,001 offered optional BENDIX P/S.

1969 F100/250 2WD's & F350's from serial number D96,001, all 1970 and later F100/350 2WD's offered optional FORD P/S, as did 1978 and later 4WD's.

When asking questions, it is a necessity to list all the pertinent details, as it's impossible to help without any. I have no clue what Joey's truck is, and...

AFAIK, joey is a nickname for a kangaroo!

 

I may be off limits to a degree in that Joey's truck is a 68 F-250 but I have found that there isn't as open or helpful atmosphere on the appropiate forum for that year. The parts I collected on Friday were out of a 72. The Radius arms and I-beams are the same as well as the king pins but I need different spindles to gain disc brakes. Yes, they offered disc brakes back then but I haven't been able to locate any in the bone yards. I can get all the parts to support disc brakes other than the spindles at the parts house. The yard at Willmar has a 74 super cab with disc brakes that could be a donor if I can be convinced that everything from radius arms, I-beams, springs, and spindles will cross over. I have been told in other projects that the interchange of things is correct and it wasn't. Been there , done that, and don't want to do it again. I hope I haven't offended anyone over this situation. Your help is greatly appreciated. Joey is another name for a baby kangaroo and our son had stuffed animal like that as a child. I don't get to the board as regular as many do here and I am sure there are those that know what I am doing here so those that are confused we lost Joey in 2004 and this is the truck he left behind. I am refurbishing the truck trying to keep in mind what he wanted to do with it and in the same manner bring it up to today's technology so as to keep up with the young people that he associated with and I now help along the way. Thanks for putting up with the rantings of this old man.

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1968/70 & some 1971 F250 2WD's: The difference between spindles has nothing to do with drum or disc brakes, unless the front brakes are 12 1/8" x 2"

With 12" x 2 1/2" front drum brakes, the spindles are the same as used with discs.

Some 1971's and 1972 F250's: The spindles could be the same, they may not be...Here again, it depends on the size of the drum brakes.

Spindles have ID numbers either cast or stamped on them. Post the ID numbers, I'll tell you what fits what.

btw: The 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog is available on a CD from hipoparts.com for 22 bucks.

If you had the parts catalog, you could look this info up for yourself. But here on FTE, most people have no parts catalogs, have to rely on the few others that do.

You've been a member since 2002, I've been a member since 2006...look at both post counts. You have 368, I have 28,811.

Most of what I type here on FTE is parts related, because most people have no parts catalogs, even though they are readlily available on CD's that cover 1948/89 trucks, 1949/88 cars.

btw, part II: 1968/72 F250 2WD's and F350's with discs also use a metering valve (C8TZ2B161A)...did you happen to get this valve? You're gonna need it.

It's mounted on the left (drivers) side outer frame rail, just in front of the proportioning valve.

This old man is 65+ and was a Ford partsman for 35 years. That and the fact I have parts catalogs, have owned over 80 FoMoCo vehicles from 1936 thru 2008...is why I know all this scheiss.

 

try here Slick 60's :: Index

and I have a set of spindle and 4 piston calipers here from a 70. there is an issu with the post 72 somehting to do with the steering ...

 

Hey. Gear Up! A guy I know fairly well has a small salvage yard. I snagged the rear axle out of a '72 F-250 last fall at his place and it had disk brakes. The truck is still out there and I'm positive the brakes are still on it. It wouldn't be cost effective to ship rotors, but if you can't find anything out your way, I can see what he wants for the spindles and other parts you need. He's reasonable, but he doesn't work too quick and you'd have to figure shipping, too. Just figured I'd offer!

 

Went out and removed right radius arm and I-beam with spindle and drum intact. Removed brake drum amd backing plate. brakes measure 12.00X2.50 could not locate number on spindle. Even took the right angl grinder with scotch brite disc to clean up and locate numbers. Valve that I got on Friday has a number that goes like this; Either it is a 1 or an I with the Ford oval emblem then D3TA and on the next line 2B524-AA. On the other side it has a Diamond shape the a 4; next line in smaller number 27 30 and in bigger numbers 014.

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We weren't trying to offend you GU, just a friendly reminder that there are hundreds of posts a likely thousands of people using this forum, so you (the all encompassing you, not just the personal you) need to provide all the pertinent info, especially when it concerns something outside the normal content or you haven't posted in a while.

 

ID number: D3TA-2B524-AA = Ford part number: D3TZ2B257A .. Brake Differential Proportioning Valve.

Fits: 1973/74 F100 2WD w/disc brakes / 1973/74 F250 2WD w/a GVW of 6200 lbs. ~ Use w/SINGLE Piston Caliper Disc Brakes.

Single piston caliper disc brakes were not available until 1973.

1968/72 F250 2WD's & F350's used dual piston caliper disc brakes.
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C8TZ3105D Right & C8TZ3106D Left .. Spindles

Fits: ALL 1968/70 F250 2WD w/12" x 2 1/2" drum brakes and w/disc brakes / Some 1971 F250 2WD's with 12" x 2 1/2" drum brakes and w/disc brakes.

All 1968/70 F250 2WD's / Some 1971 F250 2WD's:

Use w/right spindles marked C8TA-3107-C or C9TA-3107-A

Use w/left spindles marked C8TA-3108-C or C9TA-3108-A

 

The D3 in the part number D3TZB257A denotes 1973? I obviously pulled the streeing column and all parts on Friday from a 73 F-150 or F-250. Do I start over to try and keep in the right era of pick-up?

 

Since Ford replaces (updates) 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY year, you cannot go by ID, casting or part number prefixes to ID what year or vehicle the parts fit.

In this particular case, the D3TZ prop valve prefix refers to 1973 & 1974.

No F150's until 1975.

Since you have a 1968 F250 with 12" x 2 1/2" drum brakes, you don't need spindles to convert to 1968/72 F250 2WD dual piston caliper disc brakes, because the spindles are the same as used w/discs.

Most parts from 1973 and later F250's 2WD's w/discs are not the same as 1968/72. And...there were two types of disc brakes:

All 1973/79 F250 2WD's w/a GVW of 6200 lbs, some with a GVW of 6900 lbs have SINGLE piston calipers.

Everything else has DUAL piston calipers.

 

C8TA-3107-C,C9TA3107-A ,C8TA-3108-C ,C9TA3108-A according to my local parts person are engineering numbers and they couldn't do anything with them. Did find out that C8TZ2B301A is the mounting plate for the disc brake caliper to bolt up to. They had only one on hand and of course it will require two. The one costs $125.00. Have someone checking for the interchange in the hollander book.