odd start up problem
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Mountain Pass
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odd start up problem
Right off the bat it starts up, when you stop and then come back about 10 min later you have a 50% chance it will start up 30 min or so and no good. wait an hour pull the fuel filter / purge it and then try again it will start up after about 10-20 sec. the tail pipe might have a tiny puff of white smoke and temprature doesnt seem to matter. first time it was cold and started snowing. the 2nd time it was sunny and the engine block was still hot to the touch. As far as i can tell its like its not getting fuel. the system has a oem 70psi fuel pump circulating the fuel through the filter so air is removed.
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From: woodville, tx
Are you sure @70psi??? The factory lift pump is 4 1/2 to 5 3/4 psi... If you go to much higher, my understanding is that you can damage the ip from over pressure... not positive, but i'm sure the powers that know will correct me here...
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From: Mi'kma'ki
using a high pressure in tank fuel pump (70 psi in your case) is likely what killed your IP.
in order to use one of these,you need to put a regulator on it.
even then,i keep reading poor results trying to use one.
your better off ditching that high pressure pump,and using an external low pressure mounted one down on the frame rail.
wrechinball tried this recently and never could get his working right as i recall.
there is good news hopefully.if you had over 100k on the IP(lets face it,today's fuel isn't like it used to be),it's a good idea to have it rebuilt or replaced with new so its back in specs anyway for max performance and fuel economy.
in order to use one of these,you need to put a regulator on it.
even then,i keep reading poor results trying to use one.
your better off ditching that high pressure pump,and using an external low pressure mounted one down on the frame rail.
wrechinball tried this recently and never could get his working right as i recall.
there is good news hopefully.if you had over 100k on the IP(lets face it,today's fuel isn't like it used to be),it's a good idea to have it rebuilt or replaced with new so its back in specs anyway for max performance and fuel economy.
Cargo Master
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From: back in SE Iowa
oh crap i didnt even notice that!!!yeahhhhhh the 70psi will grenade an ip.
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From: Faibanks Ak.
Nope it doesn't blow the seals but it does mess with the timing advance bad. wrecking ball ran his a long time before he accidently killed the power to the pump and heard how his motor was supposed to sound. lol
Kenpo runs one, but has a regulator with a return.
This is hard on a good ip, but a bad one that wont start, you can pour water on it and get it started (usually) If the Ip is not wore out though this can damage it too though.
Kenpo runs one, but has a regulator with a return.
This is hard on a good ip, but a bad one that wont start, you can pour water on it and get it started (usually) If the Ip is not wore out though this can damage it too though.
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Mountain Pass
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sorry been a long week... water heater went out so brain no workie 
97gph holley pump. I did notice that the injector pump was pretty hot when it wasnt starting.
its a 94 f350 7.3 idi do you think this one would work in it? and or is there a rebuild kit available? Diesel Care and Performance Inc
and im not out of it eough to post a gasser in the diesel form :P
97gph holley pump. I did notice that the injector pump was pretty hot when it wasnt starting. its a 94 f350 7.3 idi do you think this one would work in it? and or is there a rebuild kit available? Diesel Care and Performance Inc
and im not out of it eough to post a gasser in the diesel form :P
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From: back in SE Iowa
sorry been a long week... water heater went out so brain no workie 97gph holley pump. I did notice that the injector pump was pretty hot when it wasnt starting.
its a 94 f350 7.3 idi do you think this one would work in it? and or is there a rebuild kit available? Diesel Care and Performance Inc
and im not out of it eough to post a gasser in the diesel form :P
97gph holley pump. I did notice that the injector pump was pretty hot when it wasnt starting. its a 94 f350 7.3 idi do you think this one would work in it? and or is there a rebuild kit available? Diesel Care and Performance Inc
and im not out of it eough to post a gasser in the diesel form :P
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
More people have posted bad results with Diesel Care products than they have posted good results.
Most have said they had good warranty service when they did have a problem, but that just means you may have to change the IP more than once.
Most have said they had good warranty service when they did have a problem, but that just means you may have to change the IP more than once.
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Mountain Pass
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cool, Im happy to use a warranty rather then pay more..... poor farmer so even if it means changing parts out its all good. where possible I get lifetime warranty 
ug hopefully only a fiew more parts and it will be "good as new"
ug hopefully only a fiew more parts and it will be "good as new"
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From: Mi'kma'ki
a few folks have reported good results with this one:
Pensacola Fuel Injection | Worlds #1 Diesel Rebuilder - FORD 6.9L - 7.3L :: REBUILT FUEL INJECTION PUMPS
most prefer it over diesel cares reputation iv noticed.
one example.best to search the idi section yourself for more results though.
wise is the man who learns and listens to others experiences.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...th-buying.html
remember when it comes to the IP,just because it "works",doesn't mean its operating at optimum condition.with today's fuel prices,choosing the incorrect IP can be a very,very costly mistake in short order.
Pensacola Fuel Injection | Worlds #1 Diesel Rebuilder - FORD 6.9L - 7.3L :: REBUILT FUEL INJECTION PUMPS
most prefer it over diesel cares reputation iv noticed.
one example.best to search the idi section yourself for more results though.
wise is the man who learns and listens to others experiences.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...th-buying.html
remember when it comes to the IP,just because it "works",doesn't mean its operating at optimum condition.with today's fuel prices,choosing the incorrect IP can be a very,very costly mistake in short order.
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Mountain Pass
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Since Im new to diesel I appriciate the info and love hearing more. power = good reliability = good cheeper running = good when it doesnt cost me in the long run. I want it to run well for a verry long time. I try to take care of my vehicles so if the part will cause problems with other parts or run inefficently i defonatly want to know. if its just likely to wear out sooner i dont care as much. partly why i go for good warranty i dont mind fixin stuff aslong as it makes sense why it broke I truely appriciate all the help
I truely appriciate all the help