If someone wants to come down here and pick up my trailer, drive an hour to the scales and pay the $10 to have it weighed then I am more than willing to let them. This little car trailer has a verified weight of 2,250 lbs and it is 2 feet shorter than mine, no stop rail, lightweight deck, single A frame to my double, regular axles and wheels vs mobile home axles and hubs, etc. http://www.allprowest.com/images/Cam_6388.JPG I have no problems taking pics of my trailer and posting them too if you want to see how much more sturdy it is than that little thing. There is a big difference in weight between an equipment hauler and a car trailer. There is also a big difference between a 1986 trailer and the current lightweight stuff. But like I said, it is sitting in my driveway and you all are more than welcome to take it to be weighed if you want to.

You all had 2k more lbs, but you also had a much flatter and longer road. I took that into consideration when trying to make it a fair test. Having the same weight, much shorter road and much steeper road isn't quite fair is it? I also shifted at 3k rpm when I could have easily ran it to 5-6k in 1st gear. If you want more weight, I can give you more weight, but it's going to be on a hill like your alls...... I just have to find one. It's hard to find a straight road down here.

Edit-I am going to be doing a video of my PSD too. That was just all I had time for yesterday. I have a wedding to go to today and will be gone about all day.

 

Just out of curiosity, what's the GVWR on your trailer?

Don't misconstrue my post as an attack on your test, it was meant as nothing of the sort. We post these things to discuss and compare, which is exactly what I as trying to do. There will ALWAYS be differences unless you and I meet in Millersburg and do the exact same test with the same trailer and same load.

My response was directed at your implication that your 5.4L pulled better than Mike's V10. You may have a bit less parasitic loss with your manual, and you even may have better spaced gear ratios, but the difference in power is substantial. I can also vouch for the fact that Mike's V10 was running really well, there was nothing wrong with his truck.

So the best we will be able to do is discuss and compare your videos and pics with the ones we took in Millersburg and go from there.

 

I know it's not an attack, just a good natured debate. The trailer has a 10k lb GVWR. I can get a picture of where it is stamped on the frame if I need to. I am getting ready to head over to the wedding, but I will be back sometime late tonight and I will finish my reply then

 

I say that the trailer weighs no more than 3,000 lbs. I've seen 13,000 lb GVWR trailers that weigh less than 3,500 lbs.

 

Great vid! The 5 speed and 4.10s are a huge help. The only 5.4 I have driven had a 4R100 and 3.73s and it was gutless, nothing like how yours pulled.

 

Where's your video, Bill?

You probably tow more heavy stuff than the rest of us, show us what that V10 can do!

 

I got a 0-60 vid on my phone, which I dropped in the river yesterday.
I'll do it again with a camara and post it up next time I hitch up to something.

There is only one very steep hill that I can think of, and its on a busy street 40 miles away. Nothing more than 5% that I could really put it through, so it will just be a 0-60.

 

Heck, flat ground 0-60 is what I posted a couple weeks ago, that'll work! And if you can get close to 20,000 lbs GVW it would be an interesting comparison with JL's 3V and my 6.4L!

 

I don't haul much scrap now so I might have trouble getting it that heavy.
Most of my towing is at 13-14K GVW now.

There's a trip that I might be taking in a couple weeks that will put me at about 17,000 GCW for 600 miles.
If I get it I will make a vid then.

If not, I will load up the 90 F250 on the trailer and load a pallet of bricks I have around in the back of the van. That should put me at 19,400 GCW.

 

Ok, I am back from the wedding now. Biggest waste of time ever lol. Yes, the v10 has substantial more power than my 5.4 if we are turning the same rpm, but with the extra gearing I was able to get mine to turn rpm's his couldn't. He has a 2.71 1st gear and I have a 2.93 2nd gear. Then throw in the 4.10 vs the 3.73 and my gearing is a pretty big advantage and the power to the ground gets eaten up in a hurry. Put a 4.10 and a 5 speed behind that v10 and it will smoke mine. Heck, just put either of the two in it and it will smoke mine.

You want more weight though? I went to wal mart today and bought 800 lbs of mulch. I am going to see if I can find a way to get two more drums of water on the trailer with my Bronco. If they will fit behind it I will put them there. That will also help take some weight off of the tongue so it isn't lifting the front of my truck up so high. If you want to go with 3k lbs for the trailer like Bucci is saying, then let's use that. That will be 3,000 for the trailer, 4,800 for the Bronco, 800 for the mulch and 5 drums of water for 2,500 lbs. That will be a total weight of 11,100 lbs. That will also be on a 23% grade that is .18 miles long. Since I am on a steeper hill that is a lot shorter and using the same weight as you all, I will also be running it hard in 1st gear and not shifting at 3k rpm either.

I found a cat scale that is 15 miles from where I work. I will pull my trailer to work one day this week and get it weighed. I don't mind weighing it, but I don't want to waste 2 hours out of my day going to a scale.

 

Sounds great! So your going to make a vid set up like that with both the 7.3 and the 5.4?

 

My trailer weight is a guess and I think it is pretty close, but I will use 3k until I get it weighed this week. We can adjust the numbers if we need to afterwards.

This trailer is a verified 2250 lbs and uses a 4" frame.


Mine has a wood deck, which is heavier than a diamond plate deck. It also has a double A frame, stop rail, a second jack and a winch. It is also a 6" frame instead of a 4" like the other one.


These types of axles weigh a bit more than the standard car trailer axle.


All of the diamond plate decks that I have seen have a small V shaped support rail under them. Mine has these.


That trailer has lightweight pull out ramps. Mine has these.


Now, I am supposed to assume that my trailer weighs 2,500 lbs or so when that other trailer is a verified 2,250?

 

I think calling it 2,500 is fair.

It can only take 10K? Looks like a 7K axle to me, and it has 2 which should make it a 14K cap. trailer.

I have one like it that was built homemade 20 years ago. It would be a great trailer, except its only 71" wide and 14' long, so most things won't fit.

 

Looking at the 2250lb trailer, I say yours is over 3000 pretty easily. Nice test, keep it up

 

Come on now Bill. The wood deck alone on mine weighs 200 lbs more than the deck on that other one. Mine is also 2 feet longer than that one too. The deck on that one is 18' and the deck on mine is 20'. Counting each frame(including 3' tongue), I have (20+3+3+20+3+3) 52' of 6" frame and it has (18+3+18+3) 42' of 4" frame. So not only does mine have 10' more frame, but the frame that is the same length is 2" thicker on mine. As much scrap as you haul you ought to know better than that......

I thought it had 10k stamped on the frame, but I went to take a picture of it yesterday and couldn't find it. It was probably the trailer I had before this one that had the 10k stamped on it. I checked my title for this trailer and it didn't have a weight listed on it either. So I think we can safely say I have no idea what it is rated for.