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The 332 is coming out thursday, I had to spend a few days in the shop...No distributor as of yet, I ordered one thru a local parts supplier (Modern Parts) for a 292 thinking I would just have to change the gear but no luck as they were different...
I have figured out I can just about write my local Napa store off as far as getting anything for the 332 Lincoln. The local Napa store is turning into a real "Wdst" (we don't show that) pain in the rear. There used to be a couple of older guys worked there that really knew their parts, I think all the computors on the counter ran them (the old guys who knew about something other than a 350 SB) off within the last year or so.
I did run across and bought a 1988 8000 Ford with a 3208 Cat (turbo) and a 643 Allison yesterday. A neighbor bought it at a Federal online auction, it was a U.S Forest Service Truck, 40,000 miles very well maintained truck. My plans are still to use the 332 if it does not have major problems and for now keep the 3208 in reserve. I know they did put a lot of 3208's in the later buses so I think the bus frame would be up to carrying the extra weight of the 3208 and the 5 speed allision if it comes to that. Right now I am not sure if it would be a worth the work to put the 3208 in or not. I do have a friend with the shop and the experience to do the swap.
Any suggestions on a distributor?
Thanks
Rick
The 332 is coming out thursday, I had to spend a few days in the shop...No distributor as of yet, I ordered one thru a local parts supplier (Modern Parts) for a 292 thinking I would just have to change the gear but no luck as they were different...
I have figured out I can just about write my local Napa store off as far as getting anything for the 332 Lincoln. The local Napa store is turning into a real "Wdst" (we don't show that) pain in the rear. There used to be a couple of older guys worked there that really knew their parts, I think all the computors on the counter ran them (the old guys who knew about something other than a 350 SB) off within the last year or so.
I did run across and bought a 1988 8000 Ford with a 3208 Cat (turbo) and a 643 Allison yesterday. A neighbor bought it at a Federal online auction, it was a U.S Forest Service Truck, 40,000 miles very well maintained truck. My plans are still to use the 332 if it does not have major problems and for now keep the 3208 in reserve. I know they did put a lot of 3208's in the later buses so I think the bus frame would be up to carrying the extra weight of the 3208 and the 5 speed allision if it comes to that. Right now I am not sure if it would be a worth the work to put the 3208 in or not. I do have a friend with the shop and the experience to do the swap.
Any suggestions on a distributor?
Thanks
Rick
The Cat and Allison are a great combination and for your use would be a "ForeverEngine". If it's in good condition you would never have to be concerned with reliability or being able to climb a grade. Fuel economy might even be better than the original engine as it has so much power. I think that's the best option you have.
If you must have the 332 I suggest that you contact some of the older established auto parts companys such as J.C. Whitney or their parent in Chicago, Warshawski and Co. or Murray Auto parts in Miami, Fl. and as a last resort Mallory ignition Company as any of them may have some old stock on the shelves.
Good luck with what ever you do.
Rick -- that is a bummer on the distributor. I was pretty sure that would work for you once you used your 15 tooth Lincoln gear.
I think you'd best be served by trying out a source who is more up to date and involved with these motors. do a google on y-blocksforever + a period + the most common internet ending and try that forum. Get a login there and ask about parts sources. I'm sure that there are some there that can help you out with a tip, if not stuff from their garage. The key guy you want is named Royce Brechler.
Again, agricultural areas are good places for wrecking yard searches. If you were in Nebraska or Kansas, you'd be OK, I'm sure!
You might also try the H.A.M.B. (just Google it). A hot rod site, but a very diverse membership (mostly old rodders) but you can find all kinds of unusual things over there and never know what someone has stored in their garage or storage building :-).
Like I posted earlier, Summit Racing. I put a mallory unilite distributor in my 79 f600 with a 370. No mods required. I took it to them, told them it was a 429 block and they had it to me in 5 minutes. The only problem i see is that the cam runs backwards because of the gear drive. As long as you have the old distributor to match it up with, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to find one
I just sent (e-mail) all the engine information to Summit.. will see what they say. Right now I am looking for a gasket set and the distributor. Thanks for the information. My biggest problem getting parts so far has been parts people getting confused between the Ford FE 332 and the Lincoln Truck 332 . I have just signed up at the H.A.M.B. looks like a lot of Lincoln information there.
Has anyone here swapped out a gas for a diesel engine? If I go the 3208 route a couple of things I can see as potential problems would be the vacumn brake system on the bus... would I have to add a vacumn pump to the 3208? If so is this a bolt on solution? Also the 3208/Allison parking brake is the air brakes on the Ford 8000 Truck, with the Allison in the bus and the 5 speed manual transmission out any suggestions for a parking brake?
I just sent (e-mail) all the engine information to Summit.. will see what they say. Right now I am looking for a gasket set and the distributor. Thanks for the information. My biggest problem getting parts so far has been parts people getting confused between the Ford FE 332 and the Lincoln Truck 332 . I have just signed up at the H.A.M.B. looks like a lot of Lincoln information there.
Has anyone here swapped out a gas for a diesel engine? If I go the 3208 route a couple of things I can see as potential problems would be the vacumn brake system on the bus... would I have to add a vacumn pump to the 3208? If so is this a bolt on solution? Also the 3208/Allison parking brake is the air brakes on the Ford 8000 Truck, with the Allison in the bus and the 5 speed manual transmission out any suggestions for a parking brake?
Rick
A big rock comes to mind.
There are some standard parking brakes that are on the end of the trans, like the old Chryslers had for heavy trucks.
With the turbo, you will need a vacuum pump for any vacuum powered components
How is the parts availability for that diesel? I think a diesel will be an excellent swap, but not if it can potentially leave you in this same situation down the road.
There is a guy documenting his installation of a Cummins diesel into a '65 crew cab over on slick60s. It's a lot of work and friends doing the work for you can be good or bad. The swap will involve everything you can think of and probably equally as many things that you have not. If you're paying him, expect many hours and dollars involved in the swap. If you're not paying him, hopefully it's not a when-I-get-around-to-it type of deal.
I had an IH cabover with a 466dt diesel and vaccuum brakes. It had a belt driven vac pump right where the compressor should have been. The pump had a line directly to the brake booster, no tank involved. I'm sure one of those pumps can be had somewhere.
Even try truckpro.
For a good reliable power brake you could use the hydro-boost system that uses pressure from your power steering pump. This system is on some models of Fords and was on a Chevvy crew cab, dually with a 454 and th400 trans, that I had years ago and it worked fine.
hello, when your looking for parts just type in 302-332 HD truck. they were built from 56-64 in f7-f8 and f750- f800- f850 trucks. they were used earler but were smaller, 279-317. the distributor will interchange as long as you switch gears. just buy a distributer for a y-block and change the gear. it will have a steel crank. if you need to change engines a 390 or long stroke std. 428 FE would work. they came in mercs. and t-birds in 66-68. the 332 HD uses the same rings as a 312, 3.80 bore or oversizes. i've gotten complete gasket sets off e-bay, bearings also. without looking i believe the rod bearings are the same as 312. remember with timing gears instead of chain the distributor runs backwards so make sure you use the gear from the ariginal engine, hope this helps. one last note, the 56-57 lincolns used heads with bigger valves and ports and they interchange if you need new heads.