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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 01:47 AM
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thats what i mean. i just watched stacy david do that yesterday mornin on gearz in a 73 c10. it fit perfectly. and ive never heard anything bad bout em goin in fords either...
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 01:48 AM
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i guess ill let yall know how LMCs fit when i do my 78...
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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I'm almost positive LMC uses ACC carpeting.

On this forum, like every other forum I participate in, different members have different standards.

To use an example, my girlfriend's Dad is a "duct tape and baling wire" kind of guy. He always looks for the cheapest way out, and is perfectly content with a "fix" that to me is totally unacceptable. I take great pride in my work and repairs/modifications are done to the best of my ability. He thinks I'm nuts.

Many people like ACC's carpeting. (I would bet my girlfriends Dad would think it was great.) I however, think it's junk and won't use it. If you are a "picky" guy; you'll likely be disappointed. If a rattle can paint job is good enough, chances are you'll be happy with it.

Have you ever seen a TV show in which they slammed a product? Stacy David gets stuff donated to him by all kinds of companies, which he uses and plugs on the show. He wouldn't last long if he then turned around and said a product was junk.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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that maybe, but youd think he would say somethin if it didnt fit right, just an installation note or somethin...
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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I ordered up a full set from this company: Auto Carpet for Car, Truck, Van - Automotive Replacement Carpets They sent samples of the carpet as well as headliner samples. My carpet and headliner will be in next week so we will see how it goes.

I might get a headliner sample from them. I've been waiting for someone to toss out a huge console TV so that I could get that thick cardboard material off the back and make my own... but that hasn't happened yet.

Thanks for the link.

Tip/Hint: Louisiana government workers receive free auto upholstery

Dixon Correctional Institute stopped participating, so you can't get free mechanic work or paint jobs for free anymore... but as far as I know, the women's prison still upholsters vehicles for free. You just have to buy the materials.



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If/when you order from LMC, make sure you order the carpet that is the full length of the cab. The one I ordered looked like it was for the full length of the cab, then when I got it it stops at the edge of the seat. It doesn't go all the way back. Also, I will have to relocate my bright and dimmer switch on the floor to use their carpet. I didn't want to pay oversize shipping twice, so I didn't return the carpet.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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All the reviews here and other places say ACC carpet wears very quickly. Thin spots within a year. Are they the only molded carpet player for our trucks?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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terceslil, did your carpet fit, other than not bein the right one?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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In my opinion, the carpet fit fine. I will have to relocate my bright/dimmer switch because the hole in the carpet is off for the switch. I really have no complaints other than the carpet is not what I thought it was and the hole for the switch is off. Everything else seems to be fine and it looks well molded to my truck's contours. The hump is fine.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Well my big boxes arrived today from stockinteriors.com and what did I find? ACC boxes of auto carpet. I was not pleased after reading this thread. But, rather than just send them back I unboxed them and proceeded to put the carpet down in my interior. I have the seat and everything else out so the interior is gutted. Here is my impressions so far:

1. The carpet is wadded up in the box like a dead body in the trunk of a Sopranos hit man. However, after thinking about it for a few minutes, I don't know how you would ship it given its odd shape. I would've liked to at least see it wrapped in plastic as it was just folded up and in the cardboard which took a few hits courtesy of the shipping.

2. I unfolded the carpet and put it in the truck. The first thing I noticed was that mine was exactly as others have described, about 2-3 inches too long and about 2 inches to narrow. Although the carpet follows the floor pretty good, no matter how much I played with it I have about an inch gap on the driver side by the vent.

3. I also ordered the "mass backing" for an extra $55. According to the website, the regular carpet is a "poly back" carpet. Mine was relatively thick and I can only imagine if I had not paid extra. I did order a roll of matching carpet for the back as they don't sell one custom cut. That carpet has a very thin backing and I am guessing that is what I would have got for the floor had I not ordered the thicker stuff.

4. The carpet is pretty thin and I can see it wearing pretty quick. I will definitely get some floor mats for the high wear areas. The color is pretty good and it matches my dash spot on. I went with saddle but I also could have gone a little darker or lighter for some better contrast.

5. I also ordered the lower door panels and the kick panels. The door panels are nice and have the edging all the way around. The kick panels are just cut to fit and are not edged which I did not like. I also found that the kick panels don't go as far up as the original ones and I will also have to cut out the area for the vent on the driver side.

6. There is the jute padding on the floor where the feet go but no padding under the seat. I cannot remember if the stock stuff I pulled out had padding under it or not.

7. There are no holes anywhere in the carpet. I guess I should have expected this as various models have things in different places. I cut the hole for the transfer case lever but haven't done the floor dimmer switch yet. I will use a small drill bit to come up through the floor bolt holes when I install my bench seat after I glue down the carpet and I will have to cut a hole for the dimmer.

8. I will have to cut some of the front off on the firewall but that won't be too difficult and it tucks up under some of the heater stuff anyway.

My plan is to leave the carpet in the truck for a while and when a nice hot day rolls around I will go to town on it. I am still in the process of replacing my body mounts so I need access to the bolts in the rear of the cab anyway. I am hoping that sitting in the truck for a while relaxes the carpet and it molds better. I still believe I will have to use a heat gun and a lot of adhesive to get it right though.

Fortunately since I purchased a roll of the same carpet, I will cut some extra pieces out to fill in the gap on the front floor and the upper kick panels. Had I not bought extra, I would be a bit peeved. I will shoot some pictures when I do the project and maybe do a write up for those inclined to do the same project.

I also purchased the visors and headliner from the same company so we will see who made them when they arrive.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by terceslil
I might get a headliner sample from them. I've been waiting for someone to toss out a huge console TV so that I could get that thick cardboard material off the back and make my own... but that hasn't happened yet.
I will be posting a write up eventually on what I did with my seats but here is a preview of how I fixed my seat problem which could be applicable to your headliner plans. I obtained a bench seat from Pick N' Pull from an 86 standard cab in a brown color. However, the seat is a little worn and was dirty so I cleaned it really good and then bought a brown saddleblanket seat cover. However, the back was completely trashed and my original back was missing. The back that I had was that thick cardboard and looks like the same stuff headliners are made out of.

I went to Lowes (a local huge hardware store like Home Depot) and found some wallboard that was the perfect thickness and bought a 4' x 8' sheet of it for about six bucks. It is the same board as the kind they make peg board for hanging tools on but without the holes. I then took my trashed cardboard back and used it as a template to trace out the new back. I cut it with a small saber saw and then matched up the hole locations. I drilled out the holes and purchased the plastic plugs, also from Lowes, to put it back on the back of the seat. I spray painted it brown with cheap flat paint. I would imagine any sizable hardware store would carry the same items in your area. I think the whole back cost me less than $15 to make including the board, paint, and plugs.

I would guess that you could do the same with the headliner if you were so inclined. I ordered the whole headliner package from stockinteriors.com so we will see what it looks like. The new ones are made of plastic.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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TheDesertRat,

A suggestion... Be very careful when drilling carpet. It's very easy to get a thread wrapped around the drill bit and have it unravel a portion of your brand new carpeting. I would suggest you mark the hole from underneath and use scissors or a punch to make a hole where the seat mounting bolt (or other through carpet item) goes.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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True on the drilling. Perhaps I will just punch through with an awl from the bottom and then just cut the hole out. I can just see the entire carpet wrapping itself around my drill bit and next thing I know I have kids from the neighborhood riding it like a merry-go-around....
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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So everyone who has gotten the ACC carpet has found it's too short width wise?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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boy this is very disapointing...im looking into new carpet for my rig...
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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I *think* ACC also provides carpet to A-1 Carpet? You can see in my gallery from when I replaced mine. It's been a few years now and I am still very happy with it. No wear, colorfast still and tight pile. The molded portion to the tunnel was good, it went up over the package shelf behind the seat and right to the sides perfect. There was no hole for the dimmer though, but that wasn't a big deal to me. All in all, I'm still pretty happy with it and the lower door panels to match. Maybe I was just lucky? I kinda thought I had "high" standards on this sort of thing, but I'm also no expert! :-)
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