Trouble Filling Up
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Trouble Filling Up
My wife's 07 explorer does not want to take gas at the gas pump, the pump will keep shutting off, it takes forever to fill up the tank. It has been going on for about three weeks now and is not getting any better. She was so frustrated today. Is there a check valve in the vent system of the tank that maybe stuck. I took some hose and blew air in the tank to see if it was stopped up, but the air slowly escaped after I removed the hose, almost like a balloon deflating, I am wondering if this is causing too much backpressure on the fuel nozzle causing the nozzle to shut off early, and also would this be covered under the powertrain warranty.
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I had the same infuriating issue with my 2008 E250. I have to fuel it up every morning and putting 35 gallons in it took 30 minutes. After about a week of this I had to do something. Since it was under an extended warranty I just took it to he dealership. They said that a vent/vapor line was clogged with a white substance. They had to drop the tank to find and fix it.
Actually for yours I found this TSB.
TSB
07-25-3 FUEL FILL - SLOW OR EARLY SHUT OFF - BUILT BEFORE 11/28/2007
Publication Date: November 30, 2007
FORD: 2006-2008 Explorer
MERCURY: 2006-2008 Mountaineer
ISSUE:
Some 2006-2008 Explorer and Mountaineer vehicles built before 11/28/2007 may exhibit a slow or difficult fuel fill or early pump shut off condition when refueling. This symptom may be accompanied by DTC P0451. This concern may be due to water or ice causing a restriction in the fresh air hose connected to the fuel filler housing and not allowing the fuel system to vent properly.
ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Replace the fuel filler pipe fresh air vent tube with the redesigned shepherd hook tube. Inspect the vapor lines and Evaporative Emissions (EVAP) canister for water contamination. If the vapor line has water in it, clean the lines with shop air. If EVAP canister is contaminated with water, replace the canister.
Disconnect the fresh air tube at the dust separator and inspect for water intrusion.
If water is not present do not continue with this TSB. Follow normal diagnostic procedures found in the Work Shop Manual (WSM) Section 310-00 pinpoint test A.
If water is present, replace the fuel filler pipe fresh air vent line with the revised vent line.
Remove the EVAP canister and inspect for water intrusion. If contaminated replace the EVAP canister. Refer to the WSM, Section 310-01.
Clean the vapor lines with 100 psi of regulated shop air.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
8L2Z-9S327-A Fuel Vapor Hose
7L2Z-9D653-B Reservoir - EVAP Canister
WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
072503A 2006-2008 Explorer/Mountaineer: Replace The Fuel Filler Pipe Fresh Air Vent Line, And Evap Canister If Contaminated (Do Not Use With 9653A) 2.4 Hrs.
DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
9S327 17
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NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.
Copyright © 2007 Ford Motor Company
Actually for yours I found this TSB.
TSB
07-25-3 FUEL FILL - SLOW OR EARLY SHUT OFF - BUILT BEFORE 11/28/2007
Publication Date: November 30, 2007
FORD: 2006-2008 Explorer
MERCURY: 2006-2008 Mountaineer
ISSUE:
Some 2006-2008 Explorer and Mountaineer vehicles built before 11/28/2007 may exhibit a slow or difficult fuel fill or early pump shut off condition when refueling. This symptom may be accompanied by DTC P0451. This concern may be due to water or ice causing a restriction in the fresh air hose connected to the fuel filler housing and not allowing the fuel system to vent properly.
ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
Replace the fuel filler pipe fresh air vent tube with the redesigned shepherd hook tube. Inspect the vapor lines and Evaporative Emissions (EVAP) canister for water contamination. If the vapor line has water in it, clean the lines with shop air. If EVAP canister is contaminated with water, replace the canister.
Disconnect the fresh air tube at the dust separator and inspect for water intrusion.
If water is not present do not continue with this TSB. Follow normal diagnostic procedures found in the Work Shop Manual (WSM) Section 310-00 pinpoint test A.
If water is present, replace the fuel filler pipe fresh air vent line with the revised vent line.
Remove the EVAP canister and inspect for water intrusion. If contaminated replace the EVAP canister. Refer to the WSM, Section 310-01.
Clean the vapor lines with 100 psi of regulated shop air.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
8L2Z-9S327-A Fuel Vapor Hose
7L2Z-9D653-B Reservoir - EVAP Canister
WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
072503A 2006-2008 Explorer/Mountaineer: Replace The Fuel Filler Pipe Fresh Air Vent Line, And Evap Canister If Contaminated (Do Not Use With 9653A) 2.4 Hrs.
DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
9S327 17
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NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.
Copyright © 2007 Ford Motor Company
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thnks ncranchero, i am planning on pulling the vent line next weekend, if the wife can keep it parked long enough. I called the dealership and they said the line is possibly clogged also, I would do try the tsb but it is not covered under warranty
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