Double Upfitters?
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You Keep What You Kill
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Double Upfitters?
Has anyone tried to install two sets of upfitters in their Super Duty? It appears that there is enough room in the dash. I believe that the switch face would need to be turned upside-down for a proper appearance. What would be required as far as the wiring? The upfitter kit comes with a relay box so maybe add a small fuse box in the engine compartment and wire the 2nd set of upfitters to it for power?
Here is a pic of my dash. I would remove the storage bin and replace it with the 2nd set of upfitters.
Here is a pic of my dash. I would remove the storage bin and replace it with the 2nd set of upfitters.
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I think it would be doable, but there is one thing im not sure of... if the switches are off with them in the down position, flipping the unit upside down would mean that they'll be off in the up position. If that doesn't bother you, or you can find a way to fix that, it should work.
You could try to take the panel off and test the switches you have on the other side. If you can install the set-up reversed, it's only electrical from there. Adding a fuse box or running it off of another circut should work.
You could try to take the panel off and test the switches you have on the other side. If you can install the set-up reversed, it's only electrical from there. Adding a fuse box or running it off of another circut should work.
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They make a left side set of upfitter switches. I ordered them for my 08 F250 and they mounted to the right side of the Trailer Brake control switch. The right side upfitter's is flat, not rounded which would mount right next to your unit that already installed. When you order the upfitters for a 2008 model tell the supplier you need the switches that mount to the right side of a trailer brake controller.
I ordered mine for $135 for a 08 F250.
I ordered mine for $135 for a 08 F250.
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No Plug...
But the 4 Upfitter Switches run 4 relays in that relay box and the entire package plugs into a single plug in the existing truck main harness. Where would you plug the second set of switches into the truck's harness and what would the switches operate?
I'm sure you could do your own custom wiring and just power the switches and have them run your own relays or direct connect accessories, but that would be a hell of a lot more work.
I'm sure you could do your own custom wiring and just power the switches and have them run your own relays or direct connect accessories, but that would be a hell of a lot more work.
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I'd wired up switches in the past in different rigs, with relays. It's not too much work. If you could get a "right side" set I think it'd be slicker than snot. Try it and don't forget to take pics!
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If there is an upfitter for the right side, then this should be easy. If the upfitters are only for the left side, then I was going to remove the "face" of the upfitter and rotate it 180 degrees leaving the switches in there normal position (Up = ON, Down = OFF). I don't think that the upfitters for the GEN3 (2008-2010) trucks will fit in the GEN2 (2005-2007) trucks. The reason that I believe this is because each upfitter (GEN3 versus GEN2) has a unique part #.
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it's a good idea, and the same I had when I read the OP...
however, the only way it will work to flip the faceplate is if the switchbox is symetrical, and the faceplate is offset. If that is the case it will work ALMOST falwlessly...
you are correct in thinking that the '08+ upfitters will not fit an '07- truck.
If the design is similar though, the upfitters and the TBC each connect to the other... one had a male end, and one has a female end... Simply flipping the faceplate, you will end up with a pair of female ends that won't mate. There might be a solution that involves trimming the interfering parts, but it won't ever be perfect...
the correct design to allow this would have been to have a M-F connection on top and a F-M connection on bottom... Then a simple flip would suffice.
however, the only way it will work to flip the faceplate is if the switchbox is symetrical, and the faceplate is offset. If that is the case it will work ALMOST falwlessly...
you are correct in thinking that the '08+ upfitters will not fit an '07- truck.
If the design is similar though, the upfitters and the TBC each connect to the other... one had a male end, and one has a female end... Simply flipping the faceplate, you will end up with a pair of female ends that won't mate. There might be a solution that involves trimming the interfering parts, but it won't ever be perfect...
the correct design to allow this would have been to have a M-F connection on top and a F-M connection on bottom... Then a simple flip would suffice.
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I think the 08 right side uppfitters will work. The 07 unit looks identicle to my 08. It's just a right side switch. I think the wiring harness is the only difference.
Go look at a 08-2010 and measure it to be sure.
Go look at a 08-2010 and measure it to be sure.
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it's a good idea, and the same I had when I read the OP...
however, the only way it will work to flip the faceplate is if the switchbox is symetrical, and the faceplate is offset. If that is the case it will work ALMOST falwlessly...
you are correct in thinking that the '08+ upfitters will not fit an '07- truck.
If the design is similar though, the upfitters and the TBC each connect to the other... one had a male end, and one has a female end... Simply flipping the faceplate, you will end up with a pair of female ends that won't mate. There might be a solution that involves trimming the interfering parts, but it won't ever be perfect...
the correct design to allow this would have been to have a M-F connection on top and a F-M connection on bottom... Then a simple flip would suffice.
however, the only way it will work to flip the faceplate is if the switchbox is symetrical, and the faceplate is offset. If that is the case it will work ALMOST falwlessly...
you are correct in thinking that the '08+ upfitters will not fit an '07- truck.
If the design is similar though, the upfitters and the TBC each connect to the other... one had a male end, and one has a female end... Simply flipping the faceplate, you will end up with a pair of female ends that won't mate. There might be a solution that involves trimming the interfering parts, but it won't ever be perfect...
the correct design to allow this would have been to have a M-F connection on top and a F-M connection on bottom... Then a simple flip would suffice.
AUX1 - Outer Fog Lights
AUX2 - Inner Fog Lights
AUX3 - Outer Driving Lights
AUX4 - Inner Driving Lights
AUX5 - Back-Up Lights
AUX6 - Air Compressor
AUX7 - Air Horn
AUX8 - Eaton eLocker Differential
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Yes, I would have to trim the male/female tabs but I don't think that it will be visible.
I'll look into this especially since it is already oriented to the right side.
Upfitters are used to turn ON/OFF owner installed accessories. For me, I plan to install the following:
AUX1 - Outer Fog Lights
AUX2 - Inner Fog Lights
AUX3 - Outer Driving Lights
AUX4 - Inner Driving Lights
AUX5 - Back-Up Lights
AUX6 - Air Compressor
AUX7 - Air Horn
AUX8 - Eaton eLocker Differential
I'll look into this especially since it is already oriented to the right side.
Upfitters are used to turn ON/OFF owner installed accessories. For me, I plan to install the following:
AUX1 - Outer Fog Lights
AUX2 - Inner Fog Lights
AUX3 - Outer Driving Lights
AUX4 - Inner Driving Lights
AUX5 - Back-Up Lights
AUX6 - Air Compressor
AUX7 - Air Horn
AUX8 - Eaton eLocker Differential
Is there a harness or something that is labeled that you can splice into for these accessories??
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Not that I am aware of... that's why I think I need an auxillary fuse box.
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