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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Which is actually quite odd - carbon fiber shafts are great at high rotational speeds, but they can't handle any damage to them, even a small blemish on the surface can cause them to delaminate when big torque is applied. I'd think this makes them rather unsuitable for police vehicles that are expected to be jumping curbs and running through and over all sorts of stuff on the road...

You been watching too many Starsky & Hutch episodes. Their coated with a pretty thick coating of resin. And big torque, the tires break loose before any BIG torque is applied to the shaft. The shaft also lives pretty high up in the tunnel away froms harms way.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LCAM-01XA
Xcalibrator chip? Or something else? And which driveshaft you have, it's probably aluminum, but is it the fancy MMX type, or the regular one?
No, I have a custom tune from 5 Star tuning on an SCT LiveWire.

I am not sure about the drive shaft, its aluminum.

What is the MMX type?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LCAM-01XA
Which is actually quite odd - carbon fiber shafts are great at high rotational speeds, but they can't handle any damage to them, even a small blemish on the surface can cause them to delaminate when big torque is applied. I'd think this makes them rather unsuitable for police vehicles that are expected to be jumping curbs and running through and over all sorts of stuff on the road...
For three years I was picking up the remains of CVPIs that didn't finish their chases. not one died due to the driveshaft coming apart from curb surfing. the only victims of curb surfing was the vapor recovery unit under the trunk and the '02 and up front alu steering knuckles and crossmembers would shatter if you hit them just right.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Tow cat, what are other common parts to have let go?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Tow cat, what are other common parts to have let go?
outside of the first two, the rear axle shafts are the only other item I know of. I didn't handle the general breakdowns, I was in charge of picking up the ones that were involved in incidents where evidence preservation was required.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
You been watching too many Starsky & Hutch episodes. Their coated with a pretty thick coating of resin. And big torque, the tires break loose before any BIG torque is applied to the shaft. The shaft also lives pretty high up in the tunnel away froms harms way.
Never seen any S&H episodes, didn't even know there was a show?! lol

I was going by what I saw when we were testing carbon-fiber driveshaft at my school, but then again one of the shaft ends was always stationary. When working on the new model CVPIs a few years ago I never really paid attention to the driveshafts, so if you guys say they are pretty tough then I take your word for it

Bill, the MMX is some metal-matrix-structure-thingamajic, basically a special way of forming the driveshaft tube - it's been quite a while since I last looked into that thing, all I remember is that it's more suitable for high rotational speed and so it was rather sought after by the go-fast guys a few years back. Now, the factory carbon-fiber driveshaft may be a better choice, idk
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Archangel, S&H was on about 72 and 73 or so with them driving a 72 Torino GT.

To much mulitasking while driving.
Text messaging, doing hair, doing eyemakeup, eating, checking email, reading the paper.

Part of that I blame on all the power assit this and that in modern cars require so little input from the driver.
So they are doing everything but driving.
Then when something does happen, they are involved in a wreck before they know what is happening.

If you never drove a vehicle without all the extra assists, I think they give you a false sense of security, which makes people overdrive the road conditions.

As fore my kid, looking at a 78 F350 4 speed for him right now.
So he will learn driving the old way first.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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I can tell you what carbon and aluminum driveshafts are noooo good for, and that is backing boats down a boat ramp. My shop is twenty miles from the boat ramp and after they started using them stupid driveshafts I don't have any idea how many of them I had to pill and get the water out of them so they could drive them. lol They were good for business though. the aluminum ones are a pain when you need to shorten one too. The yokes are a different aluminum than the tubes and are a B$%^& to weld.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Oh yea that would be a gran torino Dave. The s and h look alikes were bringing big bucks a couple years ago. I bet he never seen speed racer or maybe even dukes of hazard either. lol
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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I can tell you what carbon and aluminum driveshafts are noooo good for, and that is backing boats down a boat ramp. My shop is twenty miles from the boat ramp and after they started using them stupid driveshafts I don't have any idea how many of them I had to pill and get the water out of them so they could drive them. lol They were good for business though. the aluminum ones are a pain when you need to shorten one too. The yokes are a different aluminum than the tubes and are a B$%^& to weld.
Star, what does police cars with aluminum drive shafts have to do with boat ramps?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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The pickups have them too. lol
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:18 AM
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The pickups have them too. lol
What trucks? Thats just stupid!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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Ford had aluminum and chevy had carbon fiber ones. I still remember the first one I pulled out of a chevy, I liked to poked it threw the bed when I pulled it lose, I thought it was plastic. lol
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:41 AM
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Is it just on the 1/2 tons? I have never heard of the superduty having an aluminum drive shaft.

Chevy puts a minivan front end under their trucks, that does not surprise me.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:45 AM
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1/2 tons as far as I know. I have never liked the front end under two wheel drive chevys even the torsion bars in the 60s and the car frontends in the 70s. lol
 
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