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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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Rear drum brake adjuster interference

[/IMG]'54 F100

Is this really how the spring is meant to touch the adjusting wheel?

Or is this a P.O. thing?

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:57 AM
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Ha.....not quite. You seem to be missing a piece or two!! A self adjuster kit (about $5.00) should solve your problem.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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Well, wait a sec. The 54 didn't have self adjusting brakes.

Here is a picture, or two (3), of my 51 front brakes correctly assembled. Note that the spring does in fact drag on the adjustment screw.

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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That spring arrangerment is correct, same as my 52 F1
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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yep that's what mine looks like
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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That keeps the adjuster from turning on it's own and gives a feeling of clicks when you are adjusting it.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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Julie, Looking at your photos, I was wondering if the shoe with the shorter lining was supposed to be on the front. I am a newbie and thought that the longer lining was the primary shoe that should be on the front. Do I have this backwards? Thanks, Steve

Also....Is there a $5 self adjusting upgrade kit for the 51 F1? Where do I get one and are they any good?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by polarspeed
Julie, Looking at your photos, I was wondering if the shoe with the shorter lining was supposed to be on the front. I am a newbie and thought that the longer lining was the primary shoe that should be on the front. Do I have this backwards? Thanks, Steve
Short shoe goes on the front. These pictures were taken when I was repairing the front end. The bottom picture is of the passenger side, the other two are drivers side, I should have pointed that out. So the shoes are installed correctly in the photo's.

Here is a picture of the brakes with the self adjust mechanism (passenger side). Note the extra parts and different arrangement....this is probably what Hillbilly was refering to when he mentioned parts missing. Just FYI, self adjusting brakes were introduced in 1961:

 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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The easy way to remember where the shoes go is, the forces are meant to be balanced shoe-to-shoe. The front shoes are self-energizing so they don't need to be as long as a rear shoe to generate the same force. Or conversely, if the big shoes were to the front, tapping the brakes would throw you thru the windshield!

Julie, I see you've converted to self-adjusting; did you have to buy newer-style shoes to get the holes for the hardware?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Self adjusting drum brakes

Hey Julie,

Where did you get the self adjusters from?

Does someone do a kit? I checked out all the usual suspects (Mid Fifty ,LMC etc ) but no luck.

Or can you just get a '61 set of parts from NAPA?

Thanks as usual.


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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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I can't comment on 48-52 stuff, but since 53-60 brakes are the same.... I converted my 1959 using parts I ordered the kit for a 1966 f-100. My shoes already had the proper holes. Having worked on a 1963, the self adjuster's didn't come out until 64 or 65. I did not convert the rears yet.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
The easy way to remember where the shoes go is, the forces are meant to be balanced shoe-to-shoe. The front shoes are self-energizing so they don't need to be as long as a rear shoe to generate the same force. Or conversely, if the big shoes were to the front, tapping the brakes would throw you thru the windshield!

Julie, I see you've converted to self-adjusting; did you have to buy newer-style shoes to get the holes for the hardware?
Originally Posted by cwordsmith
Hey Julie,

Where did you get the self adjusters from?

Does someone do a kit? I checked out all the usual suspects (Mid Fifty ,LMC etc ) but no luck.

Or can you just get a '61 set of parts from NAPA?

Thanks as usual.


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Thanks for your help on that too.
Sorry guys, but I haven't converted to self adjusting brakes, I just stole the photo off another thread to use as an example. (And of course now I can't find the thread it was in - but I'll keep looking)!

Edit note - these might be helpful. Second post says you can get the stuff at NAPA:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...nt-brakes.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-question.html
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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Rear brake drum self adjusters

Julie,

I found the how-to article at:

Classic Truck Shop - Power Brake Kits

The NAPA part numbers are for a '66 F100:

UP 2247 which is for the Brake Shoe hardware @ 9.49 pair (Rear)

and

UP 80691 which is the self adjusting repair kit @ 12.69 each Left

UP 80692 which is the self adjusting repair kit @ 12.69 each Right

This looks like everything you need for the rebuild in the article

Chris
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Walla! You found the picture. I wish I could have found that thread here again! The search engine here is really "something else."

I saved the article into my library of links so I'll have it next time. Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:54 AM
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I checked the photos I took before taking mine apart. Same as yours.
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