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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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undercoating/rust protection?

i'm in a really salty environment...thinking about using old motor oil and a paint brush...had an idea and need some feedback.
what about using tree pruining aerosol (asphalt base)
anyone tried or thought about it?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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thanks for the reply itchy and scatc
i keep a canfluid film on every truck and use it all over engine compartments on trucks and equiptment.

i was looking for something for inside truck frame rails, inside fender wells, and areas that aren't really seen so much to get an ultimate protection.

something similar to what ford already has under the truck...its a black, thick, nonhardening film.

i picked up a can of the tree pruining aerosol that is ashalt base and it says it can be used for waterproofing, rust protection, and sealing cracks in asphalt. i spayed some on a piece of rust flat bar and sat it outside. i'll leave it there for a month or two and see what happens. i mainly want to see how hard or tacky it stays.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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When it warms up a little I'm going to spray the areas of my frame where rust has showed up with some Rustoleum rusty metal primer and then top coat it with Chassis Coat Black. I'm not to put the POR 15 on because I have read in their instructions that POR 15 is better if the frame is stripped of paint. Ford puts that undercoating on there and I only need touch up the frame in certain spots. The Chassis Coat Black can be painted over other stuff and should provide years of protection. I plan on calling them before doing this. It's expensive. Hope this helps.

CHASSIS COAT BLACK-POR-15 Inc.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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I think Fluid Film is a sponsor on FTE or a rep comes on. I received a sample of Fluid Film and anxiously await some decent weather to try it, but from what I read, that is the way to go. Can says "Powerful rust & corrosion proteciton" -- "penetrant & lubricant".

I havn't even taken the can to the garage. I am sure I will like the results.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Has anyone ever tried putting "spray-on bedliner" coating on the underbody???? I have see it on TV programs a couple of times.

Never heard of Fluid Film protection before, I will have to check that out.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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fluid film is the shi@# for sure...i use it on everything. i live on the ocean front where stainless steel will rust apart unless its high grade stainless...basically fluid film is like wd40 better qualities...great for battery terminals, nuts and bolts that get minor exposure, electrical connectors, electricians will coat pannel boxes with it but i'm looking for ultimate rust protection such as what you would put your farm equiptment through. i want to coat the underside of my truck, myself, easily, with something affordable, easy to get, that will preserve the underside of my truck.
you guys way up north with your salty roads know what i'm talking about...it is salty 24/7 where i am...

please put a little thought into this tree pruining sealer...i need some feedback

thanks for the replys.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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bad idea..better off with spray paint...bed liner is only good for areas that are easy to prep and easy to spray...plus over time bed liner will crack, delaminate and then hold in moisture and water making things worse than if you did nothing
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Ok scottobx, I understand what your saying and your probably right. Hey so if you are serious about this underbody salt protection, try researching some industrial grade/use applications of salt/rust preventing products. Maybe look for info on desalinization plants, there could even be some in your area??
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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not trying to smart but what is desalinisation?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Check these people out and check out there testimonials. I have one in my 2001, still have the original wheel wells on my box, no undercoating.
CounterAct Electronic Rust Protection System - Corrosion Control
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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A couple things come to mind. The waxy coating can be replicated using heavy duty antirust by eastwood, you could powder coat the frame ($$$$$$$$$$$$), or use 2K chassis black coating with ceramic. I am using HD antirust and it seems to work fine.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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thanks comodown...this antirust by eastwood seems to be what im looking for...knock off the loose stuff with a scotchbrite, spray some rust converter and then spray the cavity wax...this should preserve things and still be able to get wrenches and socket on nuts and bolt...

every thing else like chassis black and other undercoating products to me are no better than a can of regular spray paint(you spray it, it gets hard and sticks if it is preped right)...properly you need to sandblast/strip every rusty spot under the truck down to bare metal, prep, spray and when you are all done the rust will come right back.

i tried to pull up data sheets on the anti-rust to see what the base product is...if it smells like asphalt/tar i bet it is close to tree pruining spray..

i know it sounds retarted, using tree pruining sealer, but i sprayed a little inside the fender of one of my equiptment trailers and a little goes a long way, it dries to an orangepeel satin black finish, dry to the touch with a wax consistancy pretty much like the stock ford frame coating.

$7 for a large spray can at almost any hardware store.
$10 a can for eastwood anti-rust
id rather pay extra $3 per can for anti-rust to put under my f250 but for my trailers and equiptment...im giong to investigate a little bit.

does anyone know what eastwood anti-rust smells like or its base ingrediant?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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scatch the pruining sealer...once it dries its not very durable and seems to retain moisture when it gets wet...oh well.

going to order a can of eastwood anti-rust.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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I know you're looking for the real long term protection, but I'll tell you why Fluid Film performs so well, even if you have to reapply on occasion. The problem with hard coatings is that they can peel, crack, or chip from road debris, and once that happens moisture gets trapped inside and corrosion begins. Since Fluid Film is a soft coating that doesn't dry and self-heals, that is not an issue. It penetrates into the pores of the metal and migrates to all the inaccessible areas, sealing off all oxygen. It stops existing rust on contact can be applied over a damp surface, and resists water wash off.

Thanks for the good words on the product, btw. It just has a lot more applications than the regular competitive, solvent based products.
 
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