rear brake issue
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Mountain Pass
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rear brake issue
its a 94 f 350 axle. they are drum brakes. prob happened during a storm when i was plowing fro the town this year i suddenly had no brakes and had to travel 6 miles without any brakes to auto zone. i had som1 step on the brakes as i looked for sprying fluid from a line somewhere as ive done in the past. to my surprise i saw a ll the fluid pouriong out of the bottom of the pass rear wheel. no leak from the line. im assuming theis the wheel cylinder? does that sound like the cause? and should i rebuild it or replace? how much ? any insight is great cuz i have no prior experience with drum brakes. i plugged the rears from the master cylinder so i have just front brakes for the past month
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Yes, it's the wheel cylinder. They are very cheap to replace but like Tom says you need to replace the shoes. And you have to replace them on both sides, you can't just do one side.
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Mountain Pass
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its ok cuz i drive pretty slow; if i went faster my truck would shake too much and i'd lose control. but at least my steering wheels good; i replaced it a couple months ago when the damn thing popped off on me in the drive thru at a busy dunkin donuts
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buy a hard ware kit too, if the whel cyl gave up because of rust, you can bet the springs and hold downs are toast.measure the width of the shoe, there are 3 different sets sold for 350's. the hold down springs are a bi$% to put on, you kinda need 2 people to do them.
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It is actually a really easy job if you have the right tools. Snap-on makes one part# is 131a. you can get it at autozone. It makes the job even easier than most modern drum brakes, if you have never done drums, then you will probably need the holdown spring release tool (another must have if you ever work on drums)
Like they said, you will need to replace the shoes because they are contaminated, and the hardware kit because the springs are probably rusted and worn out. See if you can cut the drums, but be ready to get new ones, and lastly, I would recomend the self adjuster kits, because ford uses a small cable and it has the tendency to break.
If you have never done drums I recomend doing one side at a time so you can use the other side as a referance for reassembly.
Just to give you a ball park I just did the same thing on my 96 f150
Shoes $17.45
Drums $57.98 (for both)
Wheel cylinders $13.98 (for both)
Hardware kit $4.99
self adjuster $9.98 (for both)
Total with tax $112.74
Like they said, you will need to replace the shoes because they are contaminated, and the hardware kit because the springs are probably rusted and worn out. See if you can cut the drums, but be ready to get new ones, and lastly, I would recomend the self adjuster kits, because ford uses a small cable and it has the tendency to break.
If you have never done drums I recomend doing one side at a time so you can use the other side as a referance for reassembly.
Just to give you a ball park I just did the same thing on my 96 f150
Shoes $17.45
Drums $57.98 (for both)
Wheel cylinders $13.98 (for both)
Hardware kit $4.99
self adjuster $9.98 (for both)
Total with tax $112.74
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It is actually a really easy job if you have the right tools. Snap-on makes one part# is 131a. you can get it at autozone. It makes the job even easier than most modern drum brakes, if you have never done drums, then you will probably need the holdown spring release tool (another must have if you ever work on drums)
Like they said, you will need to replace the shoes because they are contaminated, and the hardware kit because the springs are probably rusted and worn out. See if you can cut the drums, but be ready to get new ones, and lastly, I would recomend the self adjuster kits, because ford uses a small cable and it has the tendency to break.
If you have never done drums I recomend doing one side at a time so you can use the other side as a referance for reassembly.
Just to give you a ball park I just did the same thing on my 96 f150
Shoes $17.45
Drums $57.98 (for both)
Wheel cylinders $13.98 (for both)
Hardware kit $4.99
self adjuster $9.98 (for both)
Total with tax $112.74
Like they said, you will need to replace the shoes because they are contaminated, and the hardware kit because the springs are probably rusted and worn out. See if you can cut the drums, but be ready to get new ones, and lastly, I would recomend the self adjuster kits, because ford uses a small cable and it has the tendency to break.
If you have never done drums I recomend doing one side at a time so you can use the other side as a referance for reassembly.
Just to give you a ball park I just did the same thing on my 96 f150
Shoes $17.45
Drums $57.98 (for both)
Wheel cylinders $13.98 (for both)
Hardware kit $4.99
self adjuster $9.98 (for both)
Total with tax $112.74
figure on $35-40 for the shoes, and $60-70 for each drum.
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yup. I ground a slot in the middle of a large screw driver, and push up on the one spring, while my son pushes the other one over it with a large pair of needle nose.lots of cussing helps
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Yes keep in mind that the prices I listed were for my 96 F150 4x4. the price will go up some for the larger trucks.
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All you do is hold the pin with your finger from the back of the backing plate, use the tool to push the spring and then turn the tool 90 degrees to line up the slot, relase the tool and the spring falls off. Done.
snap on part # is bt17a or the one that i have is s6118a
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250's and 350's don't use that system for hold downs, they have 2 very large springs, that hook together, kinda like locking your index fingers together. real pia to put together, but holds them tight, and they don't"float"