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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Rough start

Hi all,

I just bought an 05 SD with the 6.0. The KR is in excellent condition and runs great on the road, however on the first star of the day it runs rough. Sounds like its not running on all cylinders and I get some white smoke from the exhust. This clears up after a few seconds (30) and then runs great the rest of the day.

Have 111,000 miles and checking with Ford truck has never had any engine work accomplished and all services have been completed on time.

Any ideas???

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Joe D
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Joe, what kind of morning temps are you having?
 
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We are down in the low 30's. I do not plug the heater in because the cord is not installed. Ford dealer said it is nothing to worry about and it might just need the PCM updated.

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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My own truck would miss a little at temps around 30°F or lower. I changed my oil to a 5W/40 synthetic diesel oil and it cured that. It is amazing the difference that the oil makes. The reason is because the engine oil is used to actuate the injectors, and the cold 15W oil is too heavy. I'll bet if you change your oil you will be astonished at the difference.

The white smoke you are seeing is probably just unburnt fuel caused by the slow injector spools.

I agree you don't need to plug in for those moderate temps.
 
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Hi Bill
Thanks for all the help. It does have 15-50 or 40 Rotella T in it. That is prbable the problem. As i said aftyer about 20/30 seconds it idles and runs great.

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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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We are down in the low 30's. I do not plug the heater in because the cord is not installed. Ford dealer said it is nothing to worry about and it might just need the PCM updated.

Thanks for the help

Joe D.

I used to not plug my 7.3 in because there was a short in the plug, and it did the same thing you are talking about, it would misfire a little bit, but when I started plugging it in again, I saw a HUGE improvement and it hasn't done that since.

I even plug it in when the temps are in the 30's because it starts easier and warms up faster.

I would highly recommend getting the plug fixed
 
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My 6.0 has some rough mornings when its in the 20s and 30s, usually I run the glow plugs for a good minute, that seems to help out a lot. I also use a grille cover because the speed limits on my 10 mile commute never get over 40, and I want to make sure it gets warmed up.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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I've been thinking about getting one of those grille covers. Is it worth getting one?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the good input. I will get the power cord to the block heater ordered and star plugging her in.

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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Thanks to everyone for the good input. I will get the power cord to the block heater ordered and star plugging her in.

Thanks,

Joe D
Trust me, you wont regret it a bit. Makes things so much easier all around. Easier starts, faster warm ups, longer injector life, etc.
 
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I will get the power cord to the block heater ordered and star plugging her in.
I still think you should change the oil first, and see what you get. Ford doesn't suggest plugging in until -10°F IIRC.

It certainly won't hurt to plug it in anyway, but you will want to get an appliance timer. If you leave it plugged in all night, in only 30°F temps, you'll be wasting electrical $$$ like crazy.
 
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Hi Bill,

I am planning on changing the oil to Rotella syn 5-40. Will it hurt to change from regular rotella T to syn.???

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Hi Bill,

I am planning on changing the oil to Rotella syn 5-40. Will it hurt to change from regular rotella T to syn.???

Joe D.
No, won't hurt at all. In fact, Rotella T Synthetic 5W/40 is what I use. It is completely compatible with what you have in there now. There will be a couple quarts of the old stuff left in there, and they mix just fine.

Rotella T 15W/40 is in a white bottle, about $11/gallon.

Rotella T 5W/40 Syn is in a blue bottle, about $18/gallon.

Those are Wal*Mart prices.
 
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Thanks Bill,

Changed oil and seems to smooth out a lot faster.

Joe D
 
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