Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

exhaust question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:36 AM
  #1  
jimbo64's Avatar
jimbo64
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
exhaust question

if i change my single pipe setup to a duel pipe setup, will this enhance or hurt performance------5.8 liter 4v-have heard comments both ways-need to ask you guys who have been around it. thanks jim
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:06 AM
  #2  
bashby's Avatar
bashby
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,437
Likes: 4
From: Charles Town, W bygod Va
Maybe a SLIGHT increase, I doubt you'll see much unless you're doing long tube headers also
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 12:34 PM
  #3  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,971
Likes: 2,729
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
It will be better. It will tend to rev more freely is my seat of the pants observation. But will it pass smog? It will not if you have to get it looked at. Mine didn't, but what surprised me is the guy said "put a cat in each side or go back to single with one cat".

Technically duals with a catalytic convertor in both sides is not legal either, but that's what I did and he was happy.
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 03:05 PM
  #4  
86bigred's Avatar
86bigred
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 4
From: patricia ab canada
My 98 had 2cats on ether side before the muffler,some of the ford cars had dual cats,one on each side.or is it specific to these trucks?
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 03:41 PM
  #5  
Handegard's Avatar
Handegard
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 654
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 86bigred
My 98 had 2cats on ether side before the muffler,some of the ford cars had dual cats,one on each side.or is it specific to these trucks?
Alot of OBD2 vehicles have 2 or 4 cats, but it's not legal to change your exhaust from single with 1 cat to dual with 2 cats, at least not here in WA.
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 06:41 PM
  #6  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,971
Likes: 2,729
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
The vehicle is certified by how it is equipped from the factory. So nothing can be changed from the cat forward legally. That's why cat-back systems are so popular, they are legal to install.

So even though car "A" or vehicle "B" has duals and or dual cats, if your truck didn't have it from the factory(no 80-86 did), then you cannot legally change it. The only people that possibly can legally get away with having duals are certain years of the trucks with 460's and most of the old diesels that didn't have cats from the factory.
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 08:14 PM
  #7  
86bigred's Avatar
86bigred
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 4
From: patricia ab canada
Ok was just wondering.laws south of the boder are different than here.
 
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:47 PM
  #8  
Handegard's Avatar
Handegard
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 654
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Franklin2
The vehicle is certified by how it is equipped from the factory. So nothing can be changed from the cat forward legally. That's why cat-back systems are so popular, they are legal to install.

So even though car "A" or vehicle "B" has duals and or dual cats, if your truck didn't have it from the factory(no 80-86 did), then you cannot legally change it. The only people that possibly can legally get away with having duals are certain years of the trucks with 460's and most of the old diesels that didn't have cats from the factory.
Exactly, I didn't explain very well, or not at all.

My '85/460 is non-catalyst, so I don't need one. But, I'm still technically not supposed to make changes. However, I just passed my emissions test for the last time (25 years old) so I'm free to make whatever changes I want and no-one will ever know.

Originally Posted by 86bigred
Ok was just wondering.laws south of the boder are different than here.
The laws here vary state-by-state, and further county by county.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:25 PM
  #9  
jimbo64's Avatar
jimbo64
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
here in tx once 25 years old they don't check emissions so one can pretty much do as one would want. see a lot of pickups here that have non stock duel exhausts on them and they have to be getting them inspected.
 
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 12:59 PM
  #10  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,971
Likes: 2,729
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by jimbo64
here in tx once 25 years old they don't check emissions so one can pretty much do as one would want. see a lot of pickups here that have non stock duel exhausts on them and they have to be getting them inspected.
People do it all the time, just like I did. But you run the risk of wasting a lot of money on an exhaust if the guy at the station won't pass it. Just something to be aware of. I went out on a limb, and it cost me $120.00 in new catalytic convertors. I was prepared to have to replace the whole thing though.
 
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 02:27 PM
  #11  
greyghost85's Avatar
greyghost85
Postmaster
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 1
From: Lebanon
i put dual exh on a 79 chev 250c.i., six cyl and noticed a significant improvement
 
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:26 PM
  #12  
horsepowahh's Avatar
horsepowahh
New User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
i gotta 1985 ford f150 302, took both cats off and got a flowmaster on it, sounds great....aint got caught yet tho cuz im pretty sure u aint allowed to have that in indiana, but i like it lol
 
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:54 PM
  #13  
jimbo64's Avatar
jimbo64
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
had exhaust system replaced- cats plugged, had a flowmaster put on- got that nice quiet rumble now;
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:44 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE