fuel huh?
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fuel huh?
ok i keep hearing how every one wants more mpg's
and i dont blame u
i love the sound and power u get from a V8 big and small blocks
so back when i had my gas thirsty hemi i looked into a E85 conversion for it....
the conversion never happened
E85 Conversion Kits Change2E85.com
these were the people i was going to use because its the whole kit all u do is unplug ur injectors and plug them into the ecu that comes with the kit and then plug the kits wires into the injectors....
pritty strait forward right
it may not give u more mpg's but its a 1/3rd or the cost of super unleaded gasoline and gives u more horsepower and its better for ur truck coz its 105 octane.... 
lot more than the 87 u normally run...
here is a link to find alternative fuel selling gas stations
Alternative Fuels and Advanced Vehicles Data Center: Alternative Fueling Station Locator
dont get the wrong idea here i am by no means a "tree hugger"
this is from a performance stand point
I LIKE TO GO FAST AND GET DIRTY
i plan on doing the conversion later this year.... as soon as i get the funds to do so....
lol
again its not increasing the mpg's just giving u cheaper higher performing fuel
and i dont blame u i love the sound and power u get from a V8 big and small blocks
so back when i had my gas thirsty hemi i looked into a E85 conversion for it....
the conversion never happened
E85 Conversion Kits Change2E85.com
these were the people i was going to use because its the whole kit all u do is unplug ur injectors and plug them into the ecu that comes with the kit and then plug the kits wires into the injectors.... pritty strait forward rightit may not give u more mpg's but its a 1/3rd or the cost of super unleaded gasoline and gives u more horsepower and its better for ur truck coz its 105 octane.... lot more than the 87 u normally run...here is a link to find alternative fuel selling gas stations
Alternative Fuels and Advanced Vehicles Data Center: Alternative Fueling Station Locator
dont get the wrong idea here i am by no means a "tree hugger"
this is from a performance stand point
I LIKE TO GO FAST AND GET DIRTY
i plan on doing the conversion later this year.... as soon as i get the funds to do so....
lolagain its not increasing the mpg's just giving u cheaper higher performing fuel
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Using 105 octane on a stock tune engine is not going to gain you much of anything. In order to gain any potential HP/TQ gain you are going to need a custom tune. Great article on 5.0 Mustang magazine addressing this here: E85 Mileage Test
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its $450 for the kit i posted but its a plug and play type deal so its faily simple to install...
it does take a little more e85 than it does gasoline....
it is a flex fuel kit so u could still run 87 ,89, or 93 in it whenever u wanted or if u are running low on fuel where there isnt any gas stations that sell e85
its also got one other plus to it... e85 is made in America so we arent giving our money to those dame rock throwing weirdos.... (i got alot worse things than that to say bout them)
it does take a little more e85 than it does gasoline....
it is a flex fuel kit so u could still run 87 ,89, or 93 in it whenever u wanted or if u are running low on fuel where there isnt any gas stations that sell e85
its also got one other plus to it... e85 is made in America so we arent giving our money to those dame rock throwing weirdos.... (i got alot worse things than that to say bout them)
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I know it's not a truck but my company car is a flex fuel car that can use E85 or regular gasoline. I haven't even seen any E85 where I live in central Florida but when I was on business in Minnesota I used it and milage went down at least 30%! The car has a range of about 450 miles on a tank and I got about 300 miles before I had to refuel. This was on the trip home after using it for about three weeks locally. And the price for E85 has dramatically increased since it's introduction as well.
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Needing some advice on an 88' F-150 I recently perchased. The fuel gauges on front and rear tank both go way past full when filled. After just a few miles it goes pretty fast down toward E on the gauge. When it gets there it stays there till the tank is empty days later. Sending unit, units, wire connection, guage? I'm not sure where to start! Beutiful truck not to have it working.
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A gallon of ethanol contains less energy than a gallon of gasoline, period. An inefficient gasoline engine can do worse than an efficient engine running on ethanol, but that's about the only way the ethanol will win. And my experience with these old trucks, anything with more than ten percent ethanol hurts, which is almost everywhere now.
For what it takes to produce ethanol, both in terms of water and petroleum used in the whole process from field to fuel, we're better off running straight gas. Or diesel. Biodiesel has a better input-output ratio than producing ethanol does, and has a higher energy content.
For what it takes to produce ethanol, both in terms of water and petroleum used in the whole process from field to fuel, we're better off running straight gas. Or diesel. Biodiesel has a better input-output ratio than producing ethanol does, and has a higher energy content.
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exactly what kind of experiance do u have with alternative fuels... like ethanol, methanol, and bio diesel....
and if ur trying to run e85 in a car or truck that isnt set up to run on it its not going to run on it because it takes a little more....
and if ur trying to run e85 in a car or truck that isnt set up to run on it its not going to run on it because it takes a little more....
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I put one of those kits on a KIA. The thing ran like a bat out of hell with E85. I did it when gas was well over $3. In the last 6 months or so, regular gas and E85 are so close I go with regular. The thing runs great on E85 but I did lose a bit of MPG about 1-2 MPG. I figured it all out and it really is only a cost saver if regular and E85 are at least 75 cents different. Other than that the only thing I would be leery about is if our trucks can handle the E85. I know everything produced after a certain date is fine with E85, but those before are known to have seal and o-ring problems.
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Remember the line in the manual(at least, I think it's in the F-truck manuals, I know it's in the book for the Focus) that says to use whatever octane fuel is recommended, and that under most circumstances you don't gain anything by going to the higher octane? Since octane ratings are basically the resistance of a fuel to combust prematurely, too high of an octane fuel can actually cause poorer performance.
Most of my knowledge regarding alternative fuels is on the production, not the user end of things, but I think I've got a reasonable grasp of the physics involved.
Again, I could be wrong, but I think I'm right(who doesn't think they're right?!).
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Ethanol requires higher combustion ratios to be fully taken advantage of. Anything that's simply "plug and play" in the fuel system isn't really going to cut it. Ethanol is one of the additives that can raise the octane rating of a fuel for just that reason--it is more difficult to ignite under lower compression than gasoline is.
Remember the line in the manual(at least, I think it's in the F-truck manuals, I know it's in the book for the Focus) that says to use whatever octane fuel is recommended, and that under most circumstances you don't gain anything by going to the higher octane? Since octane ratings are basically the resistance of a fuel to combust prematurely, too high of an octane fuel can actually cause poorer performance.
Most of my knowledge regarding alternative fuels is on the production, not the user end of things, but I think I've got a reasonable grasp of the physics involved.
Again, I could be wrong, but I think I'm right(who doesn't think they're right?!).
Remember the line in the manual(at least, I think it's in the F-truck manuals, I know it's in the book for the Focus) that says to use whatever octane fuel is recommended, and that under most circumstances you don't gain anything by going to the higher octane? Since octane ratings are basically the resistance of a fuel to combust prematurely, too high of an octane fuel can actually cause poorer performance.
Most of my knowledge regarding alternative fuels is on the production, not the user end of things, but I think I've got a reasonable grasp of the physics involved.
Again, I could be wrong, but I think I'm right(who doesn't think they're right?!).
i wonder how this stuff would do with a wet shot of nos and the wet side of the nitrous oxide jet being gasoline. in my theory the easier ignighting gas could assist the e85 to better burn along with the nitrous oxide creating the additional oxygen needed. you think about all that fuel and oxygen you start to think hotter burning spark plugs and a hotter ignition can bring out more potential along with msd. for that cost and never seeing an ethanol station within 1000 square miles of here i think im going to look in to maf and turbocharging. i know under light throttle with good tuning turbos are beneficial to fuel mileage..i think i spent 30 bucks on gas and it got me 130 miles..wait..what? i had premium in there it was 3.19 a gallon so ~ 10 gallons if i take in to consideration what i had in the tank before so i averaged 13mpg on the freeway? i was driving like a bat out of hell
i topped it out on an open stretch :x
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My old I6 with an M5OD got 19-21mpg highway. Manual hubs, and it was a lot lighter than your average F-150 due to missing a couple square feet of sheet metal, the tailpipe, and spare tire rack. Come to think of it, it was missing a lot of stuff...