My wreck..
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I wasn't with Zach when he had his boo boo, but one thing I don't like about these trucks is the twitchiness of the drive by wire throttle that Ford puts on these things. It does not take much throttle input to get these trucks out of shape on slick pavement. I've been driving since the mid 60's and I really don't like the feeling you get from the drive by wire throttle. The wife's Taurus is the same way. But it has modified my style of driving though. Zach will, too. Indiana has a similar law for younger drivers and the only benfit I've seen from it so far is that the state rakes in a little more $ from the suspensions and re-instatements and the insurance companies can charge more for mandatory insurance because of the suspension. I can still remember when I was 17. I bent a little tin from my mistakes. But I never was involved in another at fault wreck from the time I was 18. So I reckon I learned as will Zack.
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From: Houston
I learned the hard way(thankfully not hitting anyone) that wet roads are not playgrounds. Dry road vs wet road for fooling around is dangerous. IF I do decide to act a fool I am careful not to have anything around me that I will act like a pinball off of while doing so. When I was younger my first vehicle was a 81 El Camino that even my mother spun the rear around and she was a very safe driver. I had to learn not to punch it on wet roads and/or turns. Learn it quick also because that thing was wicked light in the rear.
The main thing is we all have to learn what we can do and not do with our trucks. I try with in the first month or so(weather permitting) of having a new vehicle get a good feel for how it will stick to the road. How well can it pass. How well does it stop. How much body roll, under-steer, over-steer, and so on do I have to deal with. How badly does it react to bumps/holes in the road. I try not to drive like a jack@ss but I do anyways at times.
Thankfully everyone involved went home in one piece Zach. A lot are not as fortunate.
The main thing is we all have to learn what we can do and not do with our trucks. I try with in the first month or so(weather permitting) of having a new vehicle get a good feel for how it will stick to the road. How well can it pass. How well does it stop. How much body roll, under-steer, over-steer, and so on do I have to deal with. How badly does it react to bumps/holes in the road. I try not to drive like a jack@ss but I do anyways at times.
Thankfully everyone involved went home in one piece Zach. A lot are not as fortunate.
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From: Dayton, OH
yeah in the end all that really matters is that everyone was okay. Of course Ive learned from it and its all part of gaining experience.. soon enough I'll have a full license back and new respect for bad conditions
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From: Missouri City
I do know recently as well as currently how much the suspended license sucks... 6mo for a bs DWI... and when i mean bs (the cop offered me a breath test and since i had not been drinking i blew) well with an uncalibrated breath test it can and with my luck fail you... If you do choose to drive or have to the cops can rape you if you get pulled over... make sure all your lights are working and you do not do anything stupid or speed.
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From: League City, TX
Evidently, this happens a lot more than people think. Because of the false positive rate, I've been advised to refuse the breathalyzer no matter what. If the device hasn't been calibrated, you've just incriminated yourself. If you've truly not had anything to drink and are comfortable with it, have your blood drawn. Its irrefutable.
MMNC (SS)(Ret)
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From: SE Georgia
I grew up in the days when there were no rules like Bridge mentioned...and the death rates show it
you are only 17....time flies, and then you'll be back in action.
Fatherly Stance: These trucks weigh at least 4,500 lbs...and yours is likely closer to 6,000 lbs. I know from experience that they don't just randomly lose control...unless you are trying to "have a little fun". Hell, even when being stupid, my truck stayed planted more often than it did breaking loose. You've only been on the road a tiny little while. Relax and take it easy man. It all comes in time...you just don't have the experience yet to be having that kind of fun...especially when others are around.
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From: The Shenandoah Valley
... though it doesn't sting now.
It passes fast enough.
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From: Long Beach, Ms.
No sympathy here. If you had a collision while making a turn it was YOUR fault!
It was not the truck that caused it.
Hopefully in 6 months you will be more careful.
At your age you have very little time accumulated driving in inclement weather.
However I need people that do not modify their driving technique when the weather gets adverse.
It was not the truck that caused it.
Hopefully in 6 months you will be more careful.
At your age you have very little time accumulated driving in inclement weather.
However I need people that do not modify their driving technique when the weather gets adverse.
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From: East L.A.
Ahh, youth! I thought I could drive like Steve McQueen at your age (or Vin Diesel for you I guess).
Big thing, nobody was hurt. Also, you had insurance. Good. You might see an increase in insurance costs after this incident. Tickets for speeding have the same effect. It may be NEGative motivation, but it's still motivation.
I have had my share of fender-benders. Some were my fault and some seemed like I was the target of a terrorist. As far as learning the responses of your particular vehicle, might I suggest a very large EMPTY parking lot? ...but don't think you won't get a ticket there if you get caught!
When I was in high school I lived in Germany and we had no worries of losing our licenses for an accident. You can't get a driver license until you are 18 there. Only one student in the whole school had his own car.
Big thing, nobody was hurt. Also, you had insurance. Good. You might see an increase in insurance costs after this incident. Tickets for speeding have the same effect. It may be NEGative motivation, but it's still motivation.
I have had my share of fender-benders. Some were my fault and some seemed like I was the target of a terrorist. As far as learning the responses of your particular vehicle, might I suggest a very large EMPTY parking lot? ...but don't think you won't get a ticket there if you get caught!
When I was in high school I lived in Germany and we had no worries of losing our licenses for an accident. You can't get a driver license until you are 18 there. Only one student in the whole school had his own car.
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From: Dayton, OH
yeah I just made this thread because I thought you would find it interesting plus I know people like seeing wreck pictures.. I never blamed the truck for the crash or asked for sympathy...
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From: Long Beach, Ms.
"Alcohol leaves the body of virtually everyone at a constant rate of about .015 percent of blood alcohol content (BAC) per hour. Thus, a person with a BAC of .015 would be completely sober in an hour while a person with a BAC of ten times that (.15) would require 10 hours to become completely sober. This is true regardless of sex, age, weight, and similar factors." Source; Facts And Fiction
Using this rate of metabolization of acohol the BAC at the time of arrest can be closely estimated.
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From: Long Beach, Ms.
Had you written; "I don't like rain", then that is putting the onus on the the responsible factor in the collision.
You knew the conditions, "It was very rainy, and there were leaves one (sic) the road and after the turn the road headed downhill.", yet you did not take the proper care when operating the truck.
"or asked for sympathy..."
The act of posting the pictures is a passive/aggressive cry for sympathy.
Feel sorry for poor little me, my truck got hurt.
"since I am under 17 that means my license got suspended (I hate ohio.. and their stupid laws)"
Actually you had your license restricted not suspended. You posted that fact more than a hour after you stated that it was suspended.
You were not ready to drive in adverse conditions and I, personally, am glad that the state recognizes that fact.
