Hello all. Anyone out there running compound trubos. i am not trying to race just want to tow easily. I am not a big fan of chips. Elite diesel has a few setup dont know much about them.
www.elitedieseleng.com/turbo60.htm
My truck is a 2005 6.0L crew cab i am about to head gasket and head studs, EG delete or replace along with oil cooler rebuild or replace also will add a gang of guages to monitor the truck. Thinking of going down in the rear gears to a 4.1 or even a 4.3. Thought of a cold air intake but heard they are not good. i want to get a fifth wheel camper and want to travel and i want to tow and go anywhere with no problems.

 

If you are doing compounds then you are going to have to do injectors and you might want to upgrade the fuel system as well. Stage Is you may not need to unless the stocker craps out, but I would go ahead and just do it. You don't want to starve the new modified injectors of fuel.

On those lines I would also to ITP's Fuel Regulated Return to help keep constant fuel psi throughtout.

Also you are going to have to bite the bullit on a tuner, there is no way that a stock program can compensate for duel turbos(more then likely not VGT, so you'll have to disable the sensor for that) and bigger injectors.

As to intake, you'll actually be able to get some benefit as you'll be raising your rpm range higher then stock, but you'll have to worry about filtration and collection. If you don't have a tune that goes over ~550hp, you should be able to keep the stock intake alright.

 

i have been studying a lot i was looking a stage two injectors i did know about the fuel pump but i laek on the return i guess i will have to look at a few programers i have seen a few complete setup and knows what was up grade just did not kow how well they work .

 

I also forgot, you are going to have to build up the tranny, It has a weak link in the servos when you build up too much power. I would suggest the Heavy Duty Suncoast rebuild with the Billet Input Shaft.

 

If money is no object, then you are headed down the right road, I guess. Just how big of camper are you planning on towing? My 5er is 33 ft. and 12,500 lbs. I don't think the 6.0 is your biggest problem. As for me, I was on the overload springs so I choose to install rear air bags. I would recommend doing a little at a time (performance upgrades) instead of going straight for compound turbo's. I have pulled my camper for years with stock exhaust, stock intake, SCT X3 (custom tow tune), no studs, no delete and pass anybody I want to. You can only go so fast with a 5er safely. IMHO your bone stock 6.0 is probably enough.

BRANDON
SCT (DP TUNER)
EDGE INSIGHT MONITOR
ZOODAD MOD
4" MBRP TURBO BACK EXHAUST
EGR DELETE
ARP STUDS
2.5" LEVELING KIT
35X12.50X20 NITTO MUD GRAPPLERS
XD MONSTER WHEELS
REAR AIR BAGS
ON BOARD AIR SYSTEM (200 PSI)
UPFITTER SWITCHES (USED FOR IN CAB CONTROL ON AIR BAGS)
GLOW SHIFT 7 COLOR TINTED AIR PRESSURE GAUGES MOUNTED IN AUTOMETER 2 POD A PILLAR
TRAIN HORN (SIEGE ENGINEERING)
PACER CAB LIGHTS (SMOKE)
PUTNAM HITCH
LINEX LINER

 

Actually that wouldn't be a good thing in one sense, because if he were to do as much as he could now labor costs will be down due to his already doing the ARPs, if he isn't doing the install himself. If he is going to do this, it would be better to plan, save up, and then do as much as he could at one time to cut down on that labor cost.



Well shoot, I could still tow most of what I tow with the stock 6.9 back in the 80s and early 90s.

I couldn't agree more there, but I don't think it's just towing that he is thinking about either.


It always gets me when someone says that bone stock is enough(or even probably enough, when it wasn't even that for them, at least based on appearances) when they in fact, aren't bone stock. I refer to your custom tow tune(even if it did nothing but change shift points or even de-tuned the truck, or any other changes that I'm not listing) as that alone keeps it from being bone stock. I would be willing to bet that the custom tune helps out alot with you being able to pass anybody you want to. Take it out and run it and see if it's the same, I doubt it would be otherwise why would you have spent the money on the tune if there just wasn't something right about it to you in bone stock form.

 

Tex, if you go to the 6.7, I for one am really going to miss your no-BS, up front and personal candid replies. Your knowledge will be missed for sure!

 

I hear what you saying Tex25025. I am just playing Devil's Advocate here. Do you honestly think that raptor2005 really needs a compound turbo set up to pull a 5th wheel camper? I must admit you are correct about the bone stock comment. I could not drive my truck without it being programmed. Okay so let me get this straight, are you saying that it would be better to do all of this from a labor point of view? Let's use common sense here. Some things it would be wise to group together, but $10,000 dollars worth of turbo's is a bit much to pull a camper. I know you are probably going to disagree with $10,000, so before you do I am just throwing out a number. I think you are correct also by saying that he is wanting to do more than pull a camper. But until he responds I am giving my opinions based on pulling a camper. So let's just go straight for the turbo's to save on labor cost. That's what I would do, considering there are so many other things he could do before ever thinking about needing compound turbo's. I just think it may be a waste of money to do a compound turbo set up, when in fact he may find all the power he needs without spending a lot of money.

BRANDON
SCT (DP TUNER)
EDGE INSIGHT MONITOR
ZOODAD MOD
4" MBRP TURBO BACK EXHAUST
EGR DELETE
ARP STUDS
2.5" LEVELING KIT
35X12.50X20 NITTO MUD GRAPPLERS
XD MONSTER WHEELS
REAR AIR BAGS
ON BOARD AIR SYSTEM (200 PSI)
UPFITTER SWITCHES (USED FOR IN CAB CONTROL ON AIR BAGS)
GLOW SHIFT 7 COLOR TINTED AIR PRESSURE GAUGES MOUNTED IN AUTOMETER 2 POD A PILLAR
TRAIN HORN (SIEGE ENGINEERING)
PACER CAB LIGHTS (SMOKE)
PUTNAM HITCH
LINEX LINER

 

So what's your opinion D8chumley?

BRANDON
SCT (DP TUNER)
EDGE INSIGHT MONITOR
ZOODAD MOD
4" MBRP TURBO BACK EXHAUST
EGR DELETE
ARP STUDS
2.5" LEVELING KIT
35X12.50X20 NITTO MUD GRAPPLERS
XD MONSTER WHEELS
REAR AIR BAGS
ON BOARD AIR SYSTEM (200 PSI)
UPFITTER SWITCHES (USED FOR IN CAB CONTROL ON AIR BAGS)
GLOW SHIFT 7 COLOR TINTED AIR PRESSURE GAUGES MOUNTED IN AUTOMETER 2 POD A PILLAR
TRAIN HORN (SIEGE ENGINEERING)
PACER CAB LIGHTS (SMOKE)
PUTNAM HITCH
LINEX LINER

 

If it were me, and I would need a tuner anyways, I'd just do the SCT/studs/EGR and cat delete. I don't think he NEEDS compound turbos, but then again I don't NEED a diesel truck. I just want one. It is certainly nice to have more power than you need. I haven't done any research on twins on a 6.0, so I'd be the wrong person to ask. I'm just sayin' that for me, and I could get all the hp/tq I need to pull a 5er with tunes, thats the way I'd go. If money wasn't a factor, the twins def. have the "cool" factor going for it. In the end its all up to the OP.

 

Tim,

I totally agree! It's not always what you NEED that spawns upgrades and mods but what you WANT! And this is usually fed by how much expendable cash the owner has. agree with your choices on the upgrade as I see that being the most affordable way to get what he wants.

Raptor, tell us...are ya independantly weathly man?? Or the most recent powerball winner? LOL

Mike

 

Yeah, uhh... my last name isn't Trump or Rockefeller, so I gotta aim low with my spending.

 

When I was talking about doing it all together, it was more in general terms. If you are going to do a turbo(s), injectors etc, it is best to do them at the same time. Now this I do believe is the 3rd time I've seen him post about being interested in compounds, so it seems like he is leaning towards that.

Now as far as him doing compounds, singles, vgt, non-vgt, 64mm, 72mm, stage Is, stage IIs, IIIs, or stage VIs, that has to be determined after the overall goal of what do you want to change and then you narrow it down to specifics to best meet your overall goals. Now does he need a compound setup for just a 5'er, I do really doubt it, but rather or not I would suggest a compound setup would also depend on what else he is wanting to do, or rather or not he just wants it for whatever piece of mind he thinks it gives him.

I agree with that, I know I don't need 508hp to pull the trailers that I do when there are plenty of stock trucks that do it(rather or not they do it to the liking of the owners, that I don't know about all of them, some I do), so at this level of modding, I really think the traditional "need" really doesn't apply as much as what the actual owners perceives that he(or she) "needs" to make, in this case, the truck the way that they want it.

 

I do most of the work my self and to tell the truth it is more on saying i built a compound turbo diesel i am tryin to get every thing together and take the truck apart once to do the head studs, oil cooler and EGR at on time hit the tranny at on time than do the compound trubo and fuel line upgrades at one time D8chumley is right more power than you need is nice to have i am not trying to race just want to make sure if i get a 5Th wheel and deicide to hit some hill or mountains i want to make sure i can still go with no problems. here in southern Louisiana it is flat so towing on inclines are not a big issue

 

Thats why theres vanilla AND chocolate. So people can choose what they want, not what someone wants to give them. Keep us posted with this project if you move forward with it. Maybe I'll hit the Powerball and want to do it to my truck!