Changed Plugs/coils...big improvement
The boot on #2 was a mess. Looked like an explosion. (pic coming) That was clearly the source of my trouble. #4 was the hardest to do. #3 was an aftermarket coil and a different plug than all the rest but it looked ok. I replaced all of them no matter the condition. The whole job took me longer than I'll admit. Though if you subtract the time #4 took...it wasn't too bad.
No thread issues. None of the plugs were either easy or hard to remove. All the holes had light debris in them. I fabricated a vacuum hose/nozzle that worked like a charm. (pic also coming) I didn't find the air hose to be helpfull...with my nozzle..the vac did it all. Curse the engineer who ran so many hoses and hardware over the rear of the engine where it is hardest to manuever.
I have about $150 in the whole job since I found coils for $94 plus shipping for all 10.
Note to anyone who is chasing what they think is a driveline issue...check your plugs/boots/coils first! My symptom was a 'chugging' or 'stuttering' or 'chattering' under acceleration and load. It was the worst in the 35-50mph range. At idle it seemed fine. When I sought advice on it or searched the threads for similar problems...everything pointed to the clutch packs in the rear or tranny/torque converter issues. Lots of advice to add friction enhancer. Boy am I glad I didn't spend big bucks chasing that. My symptoms are 100% gone after the coil/plug swap. IN FACT...I probably could have just swapped the boot on #2 and been done. That's like a $15 fix for something I've heard people spend huge $ changing out their rear ends just to find they still have the problem. Can we get this added to a tech faq or something so people know to start with their ignition system?
Note to anyone who is chasing what they think is a driveline issue...check your plugs/boots/coils first! My symptom was a 'chugging' or 'stuttering' or 'chattering' under acceleration and load. It was the worst in the 35-50mph range. At idle it seemed fine. When I sought advice on it or searched the threads for similar problems...everything pointed to the clutch packs in the rear or tranny/torque converter issues. Lots of advice to add friction enhancer. Boy am I glad I didn't spend big bucks chasing that. My symptoms are 100% gone after the coil/plug swap. IN FACT...I probably could have just swapped the boot on #2 and been done. That's like a $15 fix for something I've heard people spend huge $ changing out their rear ends just to find they still have the problem. Can we get this added to a tech faq or something so people know to start with their ignition system?
At that price...easy decision to go ahead and swap them all. If you've never done it...
-have a mechanics mirror or similar handy. I stole a mirror from one of my wife's compacts.
-Lots of wobble extentions of different lengths will help.
-I duck taped a 8' length of radiator hose to my vacuum inlet and then stuck a 6" piece of copper pipe in the end to suck out the debris from the holes before removing the plugs. It was cool. It went down over the top of the plug and really got that gunk out.
-I used liberal amounts of dielectric grease even on the plug socket so it wouldn't stick.
-I used an air wrench to remove the plugs in the back since that was easier but I used wobbles and extentions with my torque wrench to reinstall. I'd love to find some torq sticks with ratings below 55ft-lbs...would have been nice to use with the air wrench on this job...believe me.
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I only mentioned 55ft-lbs torq sticks because that is the lowest I've ever seen. Wish they made a large range. Jobs like this are really hard to do with the wide swing of a torque wrench. A 20, 25 or 30 torq stick would have been reall nice. I would have used the air wrench after hand threading a few turns. The threading felt very sure to me. Maybe it was because the holes on mine were relatively clean. #2 was the exception due to the blown boot. I used carb/choke cleaner on it once I had sucked out the debris and removed the plug once and then re-inserted it so nothing would run down in the cylinder. Didn't end up shiny like the others but it was pretty good.



