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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Dip stick #?

Can anone tell me the stamped number on the dipstick for a 226 49 engine? Mine says6B9028 is this correct? What is a GOOD book to look up numbers like this Thanks
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Dip stick 226 engine.

I have four 226 engines.
I checked all four dipsticks.
They're all approximately 19 inches long.
From the engine end to the ferrule that rests against the dipstick tube I measure approximately 9 3/4 inches.
Two dipsticks have 1GA or 16A stamped into the flat portion near the "FULL"
area.
I saw no other numbers.
I took pictures of the dipsticks.
If I can figure out how to post the pictures I will.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Oakroadjoe
Can anone tell me the stamped number on the dipstick for a 226 49 engine? Mine says6B9028 is this correct? What is a GOOD book to look up numbers like this Thanks
Joe, I have a Ford parts book and I'm not sure if they used the same system on the Mercury trucks. If one of the Ford parts guys (Barry?) is around, they can correct me. The 9028 in the number you have is not shown in my Ford books, so I suspect Mercury may have done things differently.

All Ford part numbers (at least in the years we're talking about) have three parts - a prefix, a 4 or 5 digit item designator, and a suffix. For example, the item designator for an "Oil Level Indicator" (dipstick) is 6750. All Ford dipsticks will have this desgnator in the middle of the part number. Ford used the prefix and suffix to identify differnt versions of the part.

For example, EAG-6750-B is the part number for a 1952 215/223 dipstick and 8MTH-6750 is the part number for a 1950 254 dipstick.

The manual I have is the "1948-1956 Ford Truck Parts And Accessories Catalog." There are two parts - a text catalog with all the various part numbers, and an illustrations catalog with, what else, illustrations of the parts. Reproductions of these come up on eBay quite often. Right now, there is an illustrations part on eBay for $10, and a text part for $35.

Other FTE folks have noted that there are some omissions and errors in this catalog set, but it usually provides all the info you need to check out part numbers at vendor web sites, etc.

Have fun with your truck!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Earl
Joe, I have a Ford parts book and I'm not sure if they used the same system on the Mercury trucks. If one of the Ford parts guys (Barry?) is around, they can correct me. The 9028 in the number you have is not shown in my Ford books, so I suspect Mercury may have done things differently.

All Ford part numbers (at least in the years we're talking about) have three parts - a prefix, a 4 or 5 digit item designator = (Chassis part numbers only.) , and a suffix. For example, the item designator for an "Oil Level Indicator" (dipstick) is 6750. All Ford dipsticks will have this desgnator in the middle of the part number.

Ford used the prefix and suffix to identify different versions of the part. inre to the suffix, also to designate right or left side.

For example, EAG-6750-B is the part number for a 1952 215/223 dipstick and 8MTH-6750 is the part number for a 1950 254 dipstick.

The manual I have is the "1948-1956 Ford Truck Parts And Accessories Catalog." There are two parts - a text catalog with all the various part numbers, and an illustrations catalog with, what else, illustrations of the parts. Reproductions of these come up on eBay quite often. Right now, there is an illustrations part on eBay for $10, and a text part for $35.

Other FTE folks have noted that there are some omissions and errors in this catalog set.
When Ford obsoletes a part, the next edition of the parts catalog may not show the obsoleted part number. This is why there is no part number for an engine oil dipstick listed for a 226 in this catalog. However: IGA-6750 .. 226 Dipstick-19" long / Fits: 1941/51 cars/trucks.
Why buy a ratty old parts catalog on ebay that may be missing pages, or is a greasy mess...when the following is available.

You can buy a CD of the 1948/56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog from hipoparts.com for around $20.00. This CD was scanned from the final edition of the bound paper catalogs, printed 1964.

In contrast, Carpenter sells repro's of the bound paper catalogs (Volume 1: Text / Volume II: Illustrations) for $200.00!

I'm using the original bound paper catalogs, and have an extra copy of the Text. If someone wants it...come and get it. It's kinda ratty, but it's free.

Ford has used the same part numbering system since 1907, which predates the Model T by one year. Mercury trucks use the same system but some Canadian part numbers have a C in front of the prefix, even though the parts are mostly the same.

All engine oil dipsticks have the basic Ford part number of 6750, but some ID engineering numbers may be slightly different.

Fuel related parts are in the 9000 group, so the Ford basic part number of 9028 has nothing to do with engine parts.

In fact, there is no such Ford basic part number of 9028....at least thru 1972.

Body related parts have a 5 or 6 digit basic number. If 6 digits, one of them is a letter. But, when the part number is complete, the body style precedes the 5 or 6 digit number.

Example: As original: BAAA-8340700-A .. 1953/56 Tailgate. 40700 is the basic part number for tailgates, 83 is the body style for a Flareside pickup. If a Styleside, the body style is 99.

Ford replaced * BAAA-8340700-A with B7C-8340700-A in 1957.

btw: Who's Barry? AFAIK, the only FTE member that has actual Ford parts experience besides the site sponsors is...guess who.

* One other important fact. The problem with old Ford parts catalogs is, the parts numbers are also old.

Ford updates 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY year. So...while you may think the part number is correct...it may not be, as Ford may have replaced it.

Example: B-1012 .. Lug Nut was replaced by: B-1012-A; COAZ-1012-A; C9AZ-1012-A; E6DZ-1012-A and E8TZ-1012-B.

This means the same lug nut that fits your Little Deuce Coupe or your F1...also fits F100/150's, E100/150's, Bronco's and many passenger cars from 1932 thru 1996.

And...since Ford updates 10's of 1000's of part numbers every year, you should NOT go by part number prefixes to ID what the parts fit. This lug nut is a typical example.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Thanks

Thanks to all who responded.Question answered,will get the CD for future reference.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Why buy a ratty old parts catalog on ebay that may be missing pages, or is a greasy mess...when the following is available.

You can buy a CD of the 1948/56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog from hipoparts.com for around $20.00. This CD was scanned from the final edition of the bound paper catalogs, printed 1964.
Hi Bill. I have a copy of the CD, but even though I've got 25 years experience with computer hardware and software development, I find the paper catalogs easier to navigate. A few friends always give me grief every time they see them on the office shelf when every other document I have has been transferred to my computer. I'm sure that's just a personal preference, and of course, folks should use whichever format they like. I must admit that having the CD of the final printing (1964) sometimes helps me find part numbers that have changed after my paper catalogs were printed, but before 1964. Those darn prefix and suffix sections of the part number do change as you noted - sometimes multiple times in a few years.

Most of us have dealt with at least one vendor that decides to use their own part numbers (which are pretty useless to us end users except for ordering purposes) instead of the Ford numbers. Most of the time, I can take the Ford part number from a vendor that uses them and double check that it matches what I expect to find based on the parts catalog. An example is the bushing set for my starter. Ford used several starters for the same trucks in the early and mid 1950s. Unfortunately, the bushings for the different starters are different sizes. I made the mistake of buying from one of the vendors that uses their own part numbers and got a set of bushings very cheap, and wrong. I finally tracked down the correct ones for my particular starter through JobLot Automotive, I believe, where they list the original Ford numbers in their catalog.

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
btw: Who's Barry? AFAIK, the only FTE member that has actual Ford parts experience besides the site sponsors is...guess who.
Barry used to be a regular on the forum, but since I've been ill and absent from FTE since about 2004 or so, he may have dropped out to enjoy other retirement activities. From my notes, Barry is a retired Ford parts counter man with about 35 years working for a couple dealerships. If he has dropped out, it is good to have you here helping out.

I'm glad you were able to verify the information I put in my post. It's always good to have somebody with real experience around.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 04:07 AM
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I find it interesting that one Ford partsman with 35 years of experience replaced another (Barry) with 35 years of experience.

I also prefer the bound paper catalogs...thru 1963, that is. After 1963, the catalogs were loose leaf paper, went into huge binders, one for the text, one for the illustrations.

These two binders, when stacked atop one another weigh a ton and stand over 3' tall...so while I have them, I usually use 1964/72 truck parts catalog on a CD.

After 1972, everything I have that's truck related is on Ford microfiche slides. I also have the Master Cross Reference Catalogs, and the most important catalogs of all...

The O-S-I (Obsolete-Supercede-Interchange) Catalogs, very necessary since Ford replaces 10's of 1000's of part numbers every year.

I've prolly typed over 40,000 part numbers here on FTE over the past three years. Before I type a single number, I have to verify that it wasn't updated.

I also search for current/obsolete part numbers using two websites.

If you need part numbers verified, or you are looking for parts you haven't been able to find anywhere, just ask.

As far as the repro parts vendors using Ford part numbers is. Today...these vendors have to pay a license fee to FoMoCo to be able to use them.

Dennis Carpenter has this arrangement, very few others do.

Ford's Corporate Atty's also forced all the obsolete parts vendors to remove "Ford" from their business name...unless these vendors pay Ford a FAT license fee.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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