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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Ported vacuum is used on stock configurations with no vacuum going to the dizzy until the throttle is opened or there is X amount of flow going through the carb depending on the source of ported vacuum. Manifold vacuum is available full time as long as the engine is running. When doing any modifications at all with dizzy or carb upgrades one will have to try both sources to see which works the best especially at idle speed.
Thank you, quite helpful. I may be cheatin a little here (ford-truck) cuz I got a '68 170 or 200 in a '70 Bronck (still tryin to ID it, after 27 yrs ownership). But as explained in my earlier post - I see MAY BE 6 sources. I assume the 4 at the "block" to be manafold v. , and the ones @ the base of the carb (1 to dizzy, 1 to 'breather' on v.cover) to be ported. If right, this at least helps me to understand terms.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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The one to the PCV/breather will be a full vacuum source. The other may be ported/timed for the dizzy.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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The one to the PCV/breather will be a full vacuum source. The other may be ported/timed for the dizzy.
No PCV in '68, just a straight hose across there. Anyway, so the ported can be removed when going DSII as you have? Recurve a new dizzy, block up the line we're talkin bout, also new coil, plug wires and something like the mallory6A? No need to change the carb until affordable? I gotta go 'step by step'.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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My dizzy runs off a full vac source directly from the manifold. It will work either way but when hooked up to a timed port the throttle blades on the carb have to be adjusted usually more open to get the idle under control.

Check out the Summit Street & Strip box if you are going aftermarket. It's usually a better buy and does the same thing as a Mallory or MSD.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Even less yet...you might consider using the GM HEI module if you don't want to use the DS2 or an aftermarket box.

Loser Index Check it out in the Ignition Section there.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Even less yet...you might consider using the GM HEI module if you don't want to use the DS2 or an aftermarket box.
Loser Index Check it out in the Ignition Section there.
"Even less" I assume (am hoping) U mean money. Is that what they call the "GM 4 pin"? Just heard bout it, no more n that. I'll check your link.
The DSII might not fit my 170. I put in PS & it's kinda close in there.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Harte3,
go fast for less is helpful (my 2nd look) for me due to indepth coverage of theory. I may buy the brother's falcon performance book. The 2 'advances' & some of the 'ignition' were educating also (i sorely need that n more). The carb stuff not so much so. He seems to be a racer n I want low rev power (off rd working in the swamp & on hills, haulin or just getting access) plus on st. economy. In fact economy in mods and maintainence, the latter in labor as well as money.
Gotta get this Carter YA runnin right. If unable, I may go H/W 32/36 ($65 stove bolt) if it is low enuff to fit under my hood.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Yes, I was referring to the money. The GM module is cheap compared to other modules. They do get hot and require mounting on a substantial heat sink but they are cheap enough one can keep a spare in the glove box.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Right now it's a little complicated for me, thought I had the DSII figured (0 vac line carb/dizzy; new/recurved dizzy; module, new coil; new plug wires). What would the GM 4 pin replace? just the module? I'm tryin to ditch the vac line and points/condencer. Later, if needed (I think i need more than the standard carb re-build kit sold, have air leaks) a different carb.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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The HEI module would replace the DS2 module. With either one and a DS2 dizzy you won't have points/condensor.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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The HEI module would replace the DS2 module.
Ah, OK. More avaliable, smaller, less expensive. Again, thanks.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Just wanted to say thanks for all the help with th intake and carb setup. Fires her up last night and ran like a top!!
 
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