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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Ok so i think i have everything i need. Ive got a 460 from a 1990 e350 going into my 77 f250 4x4. the truck used to have the 351m in it and im putting in this 460. I have a question though i asked before what i would need and was told one of the things is the clutch components. Theres a manual tranny in the truck atm and the new engine has an automatic on it. Im sticking with the manual though. But what all is included in the clutch components that need to be changed out?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FatBoyzCustomz
Ok so i think i have everything i need. Ive got a 460 from a 1990 e350 going into my 77 f250 4x4. the truck used to have the 351m in it and im putting in this 460. I have a question though i asked before what i would need and was told one of the things is the clutch components. Theres a manual tranny in the truck atm and the new engine has an automatic on it. Im sticking with the manual though. But what all is included in the clutch components that need to be changed out?
You will require the appropriate flywheel for the 460. It will have to use the same pressure plate bolt pattern so that you can use your existing tuff, other wise larger 460 type components will be required, or you will have to have the flywheel drilled for your existing pressure plate, if the flywheel does not have thi pattern.

The next and probebly most important thing to verify is whether or no the crank has a provision for the pilot bushing / bearing, and whether or not it is even machined for one. Many in this era, as well as car engines were not machined at all, and will only accomodate the hub for a torque converter.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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So if the crank hasnt been machined can i just order a new crank for it?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
You will require the appropriate flywheel for the 460. It will have to use the same pressure plate bolt pattern so that you can use your existing tuff, other wise larger 460 type components will be required, or you will have to have the flywheel drilled for your existing pressure plate, if the flywheel does not have thi pattern.

The next and probebly most important thing to verify is whether or no the crank has a provision for the pilot bushing / bearing, and whether or not it is even machined for one. Many in this era, as well as car engines were not machined at all, and will only accomodate the hub for a torque converter.
In my experience with Ford all the cranks are machined the same to fit a converter hub or pilot bearing. I don't know for sure they are all this way but if I had to guess I would say they are, I have not seen one that wasn't. I know some Dodges were like that but look at the source. lol. The only way to know if the pilot bearing will fit the crank on the van 460 is check for yourself but I would say it won't be a problem, again you'll just have to check but I wouldn't worry about it. One nice thing about the van engine is it comes with the oil pan you need already.
75f350, I know you have a lot of experience with the 385 so I'm guessing you've seen one that wont accept a pilot bearing?

On my 460 I used a flywheel from a 390 since both of those engines are internally balanced to the flywheel is zero balance. In 1990 a 460 would be externally balanced so the 390 flywheel will not work for you. You will need to find a flywheel from a 1979 or newer 460.
If you do need a different crank, finding one from a 78 or older should be easy then you could use the neutral balance 390 flywheel.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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I got my info for 460 flywheel assemblys from these guys website, u should check them out.


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