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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Finch
Yea that is average for all the filters I have done 175+. Most of it is from the clutches microscopic metal particals and non metalic particals that have built up a magnetic charge, it is usually realy soft. If any thing in the pan feals like a grain of sand or bigger then you can be concerned about metal.
I mostly say that that trans is junk because of the unknown substance in it, and the Black fluid.
I have serviced trannys with fluid as black as that, but they were usually on there last legs, and the service was done to atleast try to fix it cheap. You might get lucky. I would still check that radiator.
That is amazing--that most of the transmissions that you have been into have had that much debris. All of the ones that I have done were my own and all just had a very light cover of debris on the magnet-but I never waited to service them more than 25k miles.

I guess that you would agree--that most of the transmissions that you have service were neglected.

I have always wondered why the auto manufacturers make servicing automatic transmissions so hard and expensive. Why isnt there an inline filter built into one of the cooler lines to the radiator-or into the auto transmission housing?? Why dont many torque converters still have drain plugs??
 
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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...Actually they were rated for 420 ft-lbs of torque, the BB and diesel version with external slave is rated for 470.
If you were to convert to a manual gearbox you would also need the entire pedal assembly from a manual truck.
As mentioned, check or pressure test the radiator.
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Originally Posted by nextalcupfan
after 1988 they used the Mazda 5-Speed and the ZF-5 5-speed
if u want to swap u definatly want the ZF-5 because it was put under f-250's and F-350's (i beleive it is rated to 500 HP stock)
 
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks ArdWrknTrk!

The filter was still attached to the transmision when I dropped the pan. I went ahead and cleaned it all out and put in fresh fluid. I moved it around the yard a little and its still acting up, especially after I moved it then let it idle. In park it started acting up and would idle at all unless I was messing with the throttle.

After if died I pulled the codes and came up with an egr valve out of position, vss sensor malfunction, and vehicle not in park code. The truck was in park tho, I crawled under it to make sure the linkage was tight and it wasn't moving when it was running. So, I'm lost.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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IF it says the vehicle was not in park, then there is a sensor, that tells the pcm wich gear you are in. it is easy to see, it is where the linkage connects to the trans. This sensor could be bad.
As for the egr code, hook up a hand vaccum pump to the egr and on some of them you can feel the diaphram in the egr move when you apply vaccum, and then fall back down when you release it.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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That is incredible, and a good reason to have a manual. And as for a manual swap, you will want the ZF-5, because the M5OD isnt rated for the power output of the 5.8, the M5OD is only rated for 320 ft/lbs.

There is a 2wd small block ZF-5 in the local yard, i want it, but i need a 4x4.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman1090
, you will want the ZF-5, because the M5OD isnt rated for the power output of the 5.8, the M5OD is only rated for 320 ft/lbs.

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Where did you get the information that the M5R2 is rated for 320 Ft/lbs??
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Thanks again guys!!

I picked up something that will solve a lot of my problems and its a cummins drivetrain.
 
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