Dyed Diesel
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Dyed Diesel
Interesting read on whats going on in some other states. 
Tax-free diesel seen as fuel for easy fraud - The Denver Post
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Tax-free diesel seen as fuel for easy fraud - The Denver Post
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From: Newport, WA
I believe its the same everywhere. A lot of people are tempted to run dyed fuel because its so much cheaper than highway fuel (no taxes). But if you get caught... man oh man be prepared to PAY UP SUCKA!
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I remember when diesel prices started to really climb some years back there was a big stink about running dyed fuel. I'm sure it's more common today with the $3.00 + price for a gallon of fuel.
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It is a dollar a gallon less for the dyed stuff around here. Very tempting.......So why dose diesel cost more that gas now? That I don't understand. I can see gas and diesel prices going up at a equal rate but how did diesel manage to pass gas?
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[So why dose diesel cost more that gas now? That I don't understand. I can see gas and diesel prices going up at a equal rate but how did diesel manage to pass gas?[/quote]
Well when gas gets much above 2.80/gal the media starts "talking" about it. Diesel is easier to pruduce and more profitable.When diesel is higher the only people that talk about it is the ones consuming it.A very small percentage of the population.Therefore the oil companies can make their profits up on higher diesel prices and the media doesn't vilify them. The catch is that EVERY person on the planet pays for higher diesel inthat frieght expence is higher, which means everything we buy is more expensive....
Well when gas gets much above 2.80/gal the media starts "talking" about it. Diesel is easier to pruduce and more profitable.When diesel is higher the only people that talk about it is the ones consuming it.A very small percentage of the population.Therefore the oil companies can make their profits up on higher diesel prices and the media doesn't vilify them. The catch is that EVERY person on the planet pays for higher diesel inthat frieght expence is higher, which means everything we buy is more expensive....
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From: f l a
the only time it has been LEGAL to run offroad diesel on the highway was after katrina hit,fl ga al ms were allowing it to be used onhighway for about 4 months following katrina but you had to have in your possesion at all times in the vehicle a letter from the state saying they authorized you to but it was only available to bussiness' and commercial vehicles
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Fuelman, i have been saying the same thing for years even since before i owned a diesel. i dont understand why more people dont see that. 
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I've heard of people using off-road diesel or fuel oil in diesels for a while. Actually my grandfather used to have a VW rabbit that he ran fuel oil in. I have also heard that there is a filter that removes the dye, although I have never seen one or heard too much about it, not that I would condone running off road diesel on the road.
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It's the same stuff, only has a red dye in it so the Revenuers can dip your tanks on street vehicles to see if it has been used. I use a lot of dyed diesel at work for heavy equipment and heaters, but not in my road vehicle. The last person I know who got hit for using it in his truck got a $3000 per tank fine ($6000 on his PSD) and they made him remove the tanks and replace them with new tanks. I am sure all those savings he had not paying fuel taxes didn't add up to the fine and new tanks.
Government employees around here get to fill up their cars on their government cards - tax exempt all fuels - and pay the accountants back by having it withheld from their paychecks. This way they get out of paying fuel tax and their fuel also comes out of pre tax dollars on the paycheck, lowering their Fed and FICA and year end income taxes. I suppose this is not that surprising knowing how corrupt our government is...
Government employees around here get to fill up their cars on their government cards - tax exempt all fuels - and pay the accountants back by having it withheld from their paychecks. This way they get out of paying fuel tax and their fuel also comes out of pre tax dollars on the paycheck, lowering their Fed and FICA and year end income taxes. I suppose this is not that surprising knowing how corrupt our government is...
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Government employees around here get to fill up their cars on their government cards - tax exempt all fuels - and pay the accountants back by having it withheld from their paychecks. This way they get out of paying fuel tax and their fuel also comes out of pre tax dollars on the paycheck, lowering their Fed and FICA and year end income taxes. I suppose this is not that surprising knowing how corrupt our government is...
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[quote=fridgeddiesel;8180326]It's the same stuff, only has a red dye in it so the Revenuers can dip your tanks on street vehicles to see if it has been used. I use a lot of dyed diesel at work for heavy equipment and heaters, but not in my road vehicle. The last person I know who got hit for using it in his truck got a $3000 per tank fine ($6000 on his PSD) and they made him remove the tanks and replace them with new tanks. I am sure all those savings he had not paying fuel taxes didn't add up to the fine and new tanks.
if he only got 6000 fine he got lucky
if he only got 6000 fine he got lucky
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And that's why I don't feel bad about filling up a tank with off road diesel when I'm out in the field. I live out in the back woods where cops don't care if you run it and DOT are rarely ever seen, but I don't do it if I need the truck to haul a load from any of the local towns (local = at least 15 miles minimum)
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Don't take this as the Gospel. But I seem to recall last year that a member wrote that the "Off Road Enforcement Cops" (who ever they may be) in his state now are equipped with detectors that monitor the exhaust of passing vehicles. 
Once again, I don't know if this is true but it wouldn't surprise me if that technology wasn't/isn't/hasn't been developed. It all spells big buck and give the enforcement team "PC" to stop and "DIP".
Rog
Once again, I don't know if this is true but it wouldn't surprise me if that technology wasn't/isn't/hasn't been developed. It all spells big buck and give the enforcement team "PC" to stop and "DIP".
Rog