Notices
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series All Ford Ranger and Mazda B-Series models

94 7.5 Rear Diff Pinion Seal - Pinion Nut Torque

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 20, 2009 | 08:15 PM
  #1  
PM15106's Avatar
PM15106
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
94 7.5 Rear Diff Pinion Seal - Pinion Nut Torque

94 Ranger - 7.5 - Manual Transmission.

I followed the instructions from the other threads on replacing the pinion seal and got that done and reassembled. I followed the 'reuse the crush sleeve' approach, used a hole saw on a piece of 2X4 and used that to seat the pinion seal, pulled the rear diff cover and cleaned it out and replaced the gear oil.

I've read a lot of controversy on pulling the carrier out, new crush vs. reusing the old, in Lbs vs ft Lbs, etc.

87 Ranger Rear Pinon Nut Size?? - The Ranger Station Forums

I called the local Ford dealership and the Service Mgr said that the reusing the crush sleeve would be fine as long as I put 150 Ft. Lbs. on the Pinion Nut.

Anyone else used this method successfully?
 

Last edited by PM15106; Nov 20, 2009 at 08:20 PM. Reason: Added Link
Reply
Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:00 PM
  #2  
B A dawg's Avatar
B A dawg
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
From: People's Republic of CA
Honestly, I would used the right driver to install the seal. Otherwise, you can screw up those seals easy and they will leak.
And, actually, the critical torque measurement is the bearing preload, not the nut torque. The best thing to do is measure the rotational torque req'd to spin the pinion (with a beam type, not clicker type, torque wrench), before you tear it down. But, sounds like you didn't do that. Anyways, going by Ford specs, a used bearing set typically would be set at 8-13 lbs-in. Note: lbs-in, NOT lbs-ft. But, your diff's pinion bearing preload may have been more, that's why you check it before disassembly.
On reassembly, you tighten the pinion nut while checking the bearing preload. That is done by tightening the pinion nut a little, then checking the preload, repeat as necessary. You tighten the nut until a preload of 8-13 lbs-in, OR if YOUR measured preload was more, to that value. If yours was less, then tighten to the 8-13 value.
Note: I said before, rotational torque. That is the torque req'd to keep the pinion turning after you get it spinning. The breakaway torque is the torque req'd to get the pinion turning. You don't use that value.
Now, since you don't know what your preload was before, if you set the preload to 8-13 and yours was originally more, you run the risk of having some slop in the crush (collapsible) spacer & then therefore pinion bearing to race tolarances, leading to other issues. Since you NEVER back off the pinion nut to reduce preload, because over tightening the pinion nut (which also causes excessive preload) will crush the spacer too much. That is why you can't just back off the nut. By the same token, if your preload was set higher originally and you undertighten the pinion nut by setting the preload to 8-13, your spacer will have slop due to being compressed more when installed originally.
Since you don't know your original pinion preload, IMO I would go back in and replace the crush spacer (and pinion nut) and start over. That will entail removing the pinion, unfortunately. But I am very particular when it comes to rear ends. There is no margin for error in setting them up, you do it wrong and you can kiss your ring and pinion goodbye, or at a minimum your pinion bearings.
Even tho I have done some rear end work, I really prefer not to. I have a good rear end shop (NOT a general repair shop) that I use to set up my rear ends. To me, it's a good investment- the job's done right the first time, which saves me money and time in the long run. You may want to see what a rear end shop would charge to set yours up.
Sorry for the length of this. If anything, I hope you come away with the understanding of the importance of preload, and how it is the important value, not the actual pinion nut torque value.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Carolina_FoMoCo
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
23
Sep 16, 2018 06:38 PM
mjr46
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
13
Jul 27, 2016 04:29 PM
zrt600guy
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
4
Jun 6, 2016 02:37 PM
stephen.south
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Feb 28, 2012 12:53 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:37 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE