Throw out bearing removal
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Throw out bearing removal
I took a 302 out of an 85 f150 4 speed and im putting it into another 85 thats auto the throwout bearing will not come out and ideas??? can i just leave the thing in there?? Thanks
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Pretty sure he's talking about the pilot bearing in the end of the crank.
Use a pilot bearing puller. I bought one when I did my clutch, there was no way I was going to get it out without one.
Use a pilot bearing puller. I bought one when I did my clutch, there was no way I was going to get it out without one.
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With the clutch pedal released (up) it should not make ANY noise. A bad pilot bearing will
*sometimes* make a helluva lot of noise when the clutch pedal is depressed (truck stopped,
not moving) and the clutch will sometimes feel as if it's not releasing all of the way.
They can also sometimes make noise just as the clutch is *beginning* to engage or
disengage. However, so can the throwout bearing, it's often hard to tell.
The parts are inexpensive, I think the pilot bearing I got was around $15; I got it because I
wanted the true, roller-bearing style and my clutch kit came with this solid brass thing.
Regardless, because they're all relatively inexpensive, I would replace them both if you're
gonna go through the work of removing the transmission to get at the clutch. Kinda like how
people replace water pumps whether it's needed or not when they do their timing chains.
*sometimes* make a helluva lot of noise when the clutch pedal is depressed (truck stopped,
not moving) and the clutch will sometimes feel as if it's not releasing all of the way.
They can also sometimes make noise just as the clutch is *beginning* to engage or
disengage. However, so can the throwout bearing, it's often hard to tell.
The parts are inexpensive, I think the pilot bearing I got was around $15; I got it because I
wanted the true, roller-bearing style and my clutch kit came with this solid brass thing.
Regardless, because they're all relatively inexpensive, I would replace them both if you're
gonna go through the work of removing the transmission to get at the clutch. Kinda like how
people replace water pumps whether it's needed or not when they do their timing chains.
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ya sorry its the pilot bearing... and im changing the motor over to another truck which is a C6 auto do i even need to remove the bearing it wont get in the way of anything will it?
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It might. What you can try is find a shaft or something solid that is a close fit inside the bearing. Then pack grease in the center of the bearing, put your shaft against the grease and hit it with a hammer. The grease usually will push the bearing out.
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I tried that trick when I did the clutch on my '89. After that experience, I can only assume that whoever came up with that idea never worked on a car or truck before. It literally made me laugh out loud at how futile it was. I ended up buying a pilot bearing puller and the puller first got the inside half of the bearing out (with great effort) before I got it lined up with what was left of the bearing. It did come out finally, but it would have been impossible without the puller. There was no way this was coming out with grease.
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when I can mostly because they're a family-owned business and I'd rather try
and support people like that rather than corporations.
Rock has never done me wrong; their Web site catalog is pretty good and you
can call them and talk to clueful people in the event of questions.
I had purchased a Borg Warner Brute Power[0] made-in-USA clutch kit from
them, they were having a wholesaler's closeout at the time and the entire kit
was around $65. I didn't like the solid brass pilot bearing that came in the kit
so I got a true roller bearing at a local NAPA for $15 in addition to that.
[0]I think Borg Warner sold that clutch business to somebody named
Perfection Clutch some time ago.
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I tried that trick when I did the clutch on my '89. After that experience, I can only assume that whoever came up with that idea never worked on a car or truck before. It literally made me laugh out loud at how futile it was. I ended up buying a pilot bearing puller and the puller first got the inside half of the bearing out (with great effort) before I got it lined up with what was left of the bearing. It did come out finally, but it would have been impossible without the puller. There was no way this was coming out with grease.