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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Difference in F/R Axle Width

OK, so your typical F-1 has a 61" wide front and rear axle from wheel mount surface to wheel mount surface. The F-2's and F-3's use the exact same front axle and spindles as the F-1's, so they come in at 61" in the front as well. The rears, on the other hand, are wider. They are 63" wide WMS/WMS and this carries through 1972 from what I've seen. I'm doing a 4x4 conversion on my truck and will have to narrow the Dana 44 I picked up to fit under the front. Should I cut it to the same 63" width as the rear axle or stick with the slightly narrower 61" width of the stock front axle? Does it matter and if so, why? It makes more sense to me to have them both the exact same width, but I would run less risk of having the gear case and the spring perch trying to occupy the same space if I went with the narrower width. They were obviously different from the factory, but the factory was only building 2x4's to run 45 MPH. I'll being expecting this 4x4 to be stable at 80 on the interstate. Thoughts?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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IMO, do it the same way a marmon and herrington truck is done. Or measure a factory 4x4 from 1959-1972.
 
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I have no answer for what's better, but I can measure mine in the morning and tell how MH did it if that'd help. Stu
 
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That would be great, Stu. I'd appreciate it. I don't really have access to any older 4x4's to measure or refer to. If I'm remembering right, the '67-'72 2WD trucks had noticeably wider front axles than rear, so it must not really affect much, but I don't want to ASSume anything.
 
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Yeah, I was just saying go with factory, because they've already figured out the steering/turning geometry.
 
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On my '52 the WMS to WMS measurement on the front is 65.5". On the rear it's 70.5". Those measurements are gonna be wider than any other stock F-2/3 because MH hubs on the front are the kind designed for dually style wheels with 5 lug x 8" circle. On the rear the stock axle measures 56" backing plate to backing plate, then the drum and spacer adds 7.25" on each side. MH used the stock rear axle with its 8 lug x 6.5" circle, then mounted spacers on the outsides of the drums to convert them to the 5 lug x 8" pattern. Here's a pic of one of the rear spacers. Stu

 
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