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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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sloppy steering

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i still have sloppy steering even tho i have replaced the tierod ends, center link, shocks, wheel brg.s and adjusted the steering box.
steering box provided some major improvement, but i want good as new steering or as close as i can get it...
will replacing the steering box fix this?
also wheels have been balanced.

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the t19 trans seems to be holding me back from modern freeway speeds...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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I would delve a little deeper before throwing expensive parts at it. Have you replaced the pivot arm bushings and/or the balljoints?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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thanks replying bghnkinf250
do you mean radius arm bushings?
i already replaced them...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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draglink on the gear box?
checked the i beam bushings in the center?
is it play in the steering or does it just like to wonder around?
if it is just wondering have the alighnment checked and check into adding a steering stabilizer kit

also have you checked where the steering column connects to the gear box for play?don't remember if these trucks have rag joints or not but they do wear out eventually.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrash63
hi
i still have sloppy steering even tho i have replaced the tierod ends, center link, shocks, wheel brg.s and adjusted the steering box.
steering box provided some major improvement, but i want good as new steering or as close as i can get it...
will replacing the steering box fix this?
also wheels have been balanced.

ps
the t19 trans seems to be holding me back from modern freeway speeds...
To test the steering gear, unlock the column with the key. turn the wheel to the middle.
Reach under the hood and turn the shaft going in to the box back and forth.
How much slop? is it in the box or farther down?
If you need a box, DO NOT get an A1 Cardone re-man. you are better keeping your money and looking in junk yards. do the test and find one with less slop.
The answer to the T19 problem ( I have it to ) Is a zf 5 speed out of a 87-97.
You have to make sure that you get one from a 4x4, and it must match the motor.
one from an IDI or 460 wont bolt up.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Good point, you should try to eliminate or determine where in the steering system it is.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:50 AM
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i had the steering box tightened all the way, which resulted in
an extreme sensitivity.like if i moved the steering wheel to the left and to the right ( while driving )it reacted too much. but still a lot of play in the steering wheel...
so maybe it is the the rag joint
front end was alinged too.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 05:00 AM
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oops forgot about the trans,the wife is trying to get me to put in an automatic...she wants to be able to drive everything we got...go figure
i treid to to teach her years ago but she gave up.

is 4th gear on the t19 1 to 1 ratio?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by roadrash63
oops forgot about the trans,the wife is trying to get me to put in an automatic...she wants to be able to drive everything we got...go figure
i treid to to teach her years ago but she gave up.

is 4th gear on the t19 1 to 1 ratio?
Yes, it.
Dont put a slush box in.... I hate auto trucks.
But if you do, I would go for an E4OD.
I know nothing about the swap or when ford started using them.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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If she wants to drive everything in the house, they she should learn to drive a stick.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bghnkinf250
If she wants to drive everything in the house, they she should learn to drive a stick.
my thoughts exactly!
I would rep you but I am all out.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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well she will never ride my harley!
hey if i switch to the zf can i reuse the pressure plate and just change the disc?
just put it in 3 weeks ago.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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I thought I read they are different, but I have been known to be wrong once, maybe twice.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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well she will never ride my harley!
hey if i switch to the zf can i reuse the pressure plate and just change the disc?
just put it in 3 weeks ago.
Nope, The whole thing, + the fly wheel and cross member have to be changed.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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well she will never ride my harley!
hey if i switch to the zf can i reuse the pressure plate and just change the disc?
just put it in 3 weeks ago.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-pictures.html
Hope it helps

BTW, what did you find with the steering gear?
 
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