psd engine does not start
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Next step I am going to take the ICP out and clean the connectors on it from grease Tomorrow i will meassure the oil pressure on the heads test ports. If the pressure is low than the IPR is sticking or the HPOP is broken.
Does anyone have a code scanner to borrow? minneapolis
Does anyone have a code scanner to borrow? minneapolis
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update: IDM
i got these codes:
p1670 - electronic feedback (EF) signal not detected
p0603 - internal control module KAM malfunction
p0603a - internal control module keep alive memory
i checked all fuses and relays which were fine . My guess is the IDM is fried. Anyone help..is there a way to DIY test the IDM, or do I have to buy a new IDM to test it out??
p1670 - electronic feedback (EF) signal not detected
p0603 - internal control module KAM malfunction
p0603a - internal control module keep alive memory
i checked all fuses and relays which were fine . My guess is the IDM is fried. Anyone help..is there a way to DIY test the IDM, or do I have to buy a new IDM to test it out??
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The 1670 kind of worries me, but we need to check the wiring under the valve cover first.
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Do you think that a loose connector on passenger side would cause no start ?
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I got the same code with no start conditions. I am now waiting on the computer that FORD has to build. I will let you know what I run across with the new puter. They told me it is a week build time on the puters if you should need 1
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I am not sure if the oil pressure gauge normally reads pressure while cranking. I will try to check to see if mine does when I leave here today.
I believe the crankcase oil pump supplies oil to lube the engine and that is what the dash gauge reads the pressure for. However I think this pump also supplies oil to the HPOP resevoir, so if it is not doing that, then the HPOP would have no oil to power the injectors with.
There may be way to check if the HPOP resevoir is empty or not.
Mark
I believe the crankcase oil pump supplies oil to lube the engine and that is what the dash gauge reads the pressure for. However I think this pump also supplies oil to the HPOP resevoir, so if it is not doing that, then the HPOP would have no oil to power the injectors with.
There may be way to check if the HPOP resevoir is empty or not.
Mark
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Welcome to the forum.
To check the level in your HPOP take the allen bolt (located on top of the HPOP housing) out and use the long end of your wrench as a dipstick. You will need to remove your cool black plastic Powerstroke cover to get to the allen bolt. If you get no oil on your "dipstick" then fill it up with oil and try starting it.
P.S. remember to put the allen bolt back in the HPOP, or you will be cleaning you hood.
To check the level in your HPOP take the allen bolt (located on top of the HPOP housing) out and use the long end of your wrench as a dipstick. You will need to remove your cool black plastic Powerstroke cover to get to the allen bolt. If you get no oil on your "dipstick" then fill it up with oil and try starting it.
P.S. remember to put the allen bolt back in the HPOP, or you will be cleaning you hood.
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hi again
I do not think my problem is oil related . Today i tried teh Autoenguinity pc scanner and this is what i got:
I scanned it and got 1668 code after KOEO, then i tried to initiate the Injector Buzz test but i got a communication error between the PCM and IDM.
I followed the Pinpoint test from my ford manual and in step
FJ7 CHECK IDM GROUND
Key off.
Measure resistance between IDM connector pin 26 and battery ground.
Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
If not REPAIR open in IDM ground circuit 574 (BK/PK). RESTORE system. CLEAR DTCs and RETEST
My resistance is more then 30 , but i dont have the wiring diagrams for this. Can someone help me with please
I scanned it and got 1668 code after KOEO, then i tried to initiate the Injector Buzz test but i got a communication error between the PCM and IDM.
I followed the Pinpoint test from my ford manual and in step
FJ7 CHECK IDM GROUND
Key off.
Measure resistance between IDM connector pin 26 and battery ground.
Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
If not REPAIR open in IDM ground circuit 574 (BK/PK). RESTORE system. CLEAR DTCs and RETEST
My resistance is more then 30 , but i dont have the wiring diagrams for this. Can someone help me with please
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Couple of questions. Is the truck in a no start condition now? Did you try swapping the relays and testing all fuses with a meter? If you don't have access to a diagram, how did you know which pin #26 was? If you have access to the pin out diagrams, then you can find out which pin on the PCM connector is for that circuit and check for continuity, but it sounds like either you're testing the wrong pin, or you need to simply follow the bk/pk wire (I'm color challenged, but I'll guess that means black with a pink tracer?) from the IDM connector all the way back to the PCM to find the short.
Did FJ2 - FJ6 check out on the diagnostic tree? It's starting to sound like a chaffed wire somewhere. If that's the case, be sure to take photos of where you find the problem so the rest of us can check the same location for any signs of trouble.
Do you have a pin out for the PCM connector?
Did FJ2 - FJ6 check out on the diagnostic tree? It's starting to sound like a chaffed wire somewhere. If that's the case, be sure to take photos of where you find the problem so the rest of us can check the same location for any signs of trouble.
Do you have a pin out for the PCM connector?
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Car cranks but does not start. I checked all fuses and relay. IDM connector has numbers on its back under the plastic cover.
After some research on net I think the 26 pin (thick wire) is for battery ground. Tomorow I will follow the wire and see where it connects. I will report.
After some research on net I think the 26 pin (thick wire) is for battery ground. Tomorow I will follow the wire and see where it connects. I will report.
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I guess I'll need to start wearing my reading glasses when I work on stuff. I never knew it was labeled. Did you go through all the other tests ok up to FJ7? I'll have to do some digging to see if I can find circuit 574. I don't have much luck with the wiring portion of the manual.
Here's the pin out chart so you can double check things. (2002 right?)
Here's the pin out chart so you can double check things. (2002 right?)
