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Old 08-28-2009, 08:02 AM
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If you're gonna put the GT engine in there you should at least put the one from a GTX1. It's 700HP.

I thought the dry sump was to reduce the height on the engine. Why would you worry about clearance?
Thats not a create motor, why would you put a dry-sump in for clearance, the ZR1 and LS7 Vettes have dry-sumps, there no intended for clearance, its for performance, because they're burn so much damn oil. and to keep the internals lubricated.
 
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Why not just build on what you got? Seems like in the long run the costs of making something else fit and work would get pricey.
 
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Why not just build on what you got? Seems like in the long run the costs of making something else fit and work would get pricey.
It would be a direct bolt in, the only issue I am concern is the Dy-sump oil pump.
 
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Will you use your current PCM? I'm certian it would fit but then feeding the fuel is a concern. Fuel pumps are different I would believe.
 
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Originally Posted by Stillen GLE
Thats not a create motor, why would you put a dry-sump in for clearance, the ZR1 and LS7 Vettes have dry-sumps, there no intended for clearance, its for performance, because they're burn so much damn oil. and to keep the internals lubricated.
I'm afraid you're a bit confused. There are several advantages to a dry sump oiling system, none of which have any real significance in the application you're talking about.

1) The oil pan can be made much shallower, allowing the engine to be mounted lower in the chassis for better handling. No advantage in F250.

2) Remote oil tank can be made pretty much any size, allowing for more oil capacity. No advantage, oil capacity not a significant issue.

3) Oil delivery not affected by high cornering loads. Clearly not an issue with F250

4) Reduced windage, i.e. less power loss created by drag of oil on crankshaft. Maybe 10-15 hp max, or around 2% of total. No significant advantage.

It has nothing to do with how much oil the engine burns, and is only an advantage in lubricating the engine internals if the vehicle is subject to high cornering loads.

In return you will get more weight, complexity, and cost. Now, if you just want to spend a few gigabucks on a truck that will get blown away by a stock Honda Accord V6, well have at it. You can do the same thing cheaper by just adding a supercharger onto the stock 5.4
 
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The GT engine you're talking about will cost big bucks if you can find it.
There are better and cheaper ways to get power
 
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I see what you guys are saying, but I said i won't be getting a Crew Cab or Super Cab, I am getting a Single Cab short bed 5.4L V8 F250, it won't way much then. now If I was talking about a CC or a Super cab then yea I could definitely see your point, if i went the route I was explaining before it be no different then a Lightning.
 
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:54 AM
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I guess if they made a regular cab short bed you'd be set.
 
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:56 AM
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They don't make a short bed regular cab...wish they did.
 
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Is this possible to do, putting a Ford GT motor in a F-250 I know they come with a 5.4L 3v just curious to see if this would work, I know about the dry sump oil system, I may just need to get the wet-sump block right, or do you guys think the dry sump system would fit in there.

Or would it better to try and fit a GT500 motor in there. I originally though about putting this in a expedition but then I though it may take a little modifacation to get the 5.4L in the expy, But I've seen it done to Lightning with a FGT wet sump. I think they did it with no modifcation except for the convert the block to a wet sump, this is before ford offered the GT block in wet-sump. would the ECU be able to tune for the 5.4L or no?

While the GT engine wouldnt be a problem with fit... The question arrises WHY? To put an engine, designed to rev high, that moves a light car... Designed with an extenal oiling system, and oput it in a 7500 lbs truck.

When building an engine, One normally doesnt throw a bunch of high performance parts, into a package, then put it in a vehicle, and get a reasonably good outcome... Thos guys that do that are the ones normaly that get disguisted, and sell there misfortune, and a rediculous loss. An engine is built for a certain job... That is why the Mustang 5.4 differs from the SuperDuty 5.4...
 
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I would say put your money into some good cams,Exhaust work,Heads,And an induction system.All the advise you have been handed here sounds like a bunch of guys who have been there done that. Although your idea would be unique You will get blown away by someone who spent alot less money then you would have to.
 
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Originally Posted by Ace!
They don't make a short bed regular cab...wish they did.
Thought they do in Mexico and/or Brazil.
 
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I think you're right about one being offered in other countries. I wonder if the OP is figuring the import into the equation
 
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Probably can't be imported
 
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The frame could be shortened for a short bed. Why not throw out the 5.4 and work a v10 for high revs.... Seems judging by the small pistons if you could work the heads to support it you could get a high hp high rpm set up there that would be a lot cooler and probably less coin..... I have long wondered why ford hasn't done it with a car like the gt
 


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