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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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When is it to much?

Well I am finally going to start writing down my goals, and what I want so I got it and achieve it. Well I met a few guys, who think I have what it takes to make a 2WD sled pulling truck. One guys is really helpful and supportive. Anyways, both of them are Cummins guys. So they don't know anything about the PSD, but they are helping me about correct ladder bar sizes, etc. But this project is in the same realm most everyones is.. It still has to be streetable. Well I decided I want to go some B code injectors (If I can, from what I understand there just a nonstock nozzel, thats why there 'B' code, so I see no real problem.) A Stealth Stage 2 HPOP, a turbo, a intercooler, methenal injection, and a good tune. So with all this would my stock internal and head bolts stand up to it and stay in tact? Cause the turbo I would bump up to wouldn't be much bigger. But I also been told our stock turbos hold up pretty well, so info there would be helpful. But yeah will the stock stuff be okay and would i not be walking on the edge? So yeha those are my two questsions, Stock internals ok to use and info about how hard I can push out stock turbo. Thanks guys, much appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Sounds pretty good so far, but if your are going to go big with power I would def change the headbolts to ARP Head studs. They can withstand a lot more abuse. Also I think are stock turbos don't like to see 40 lbs of boost or maybe 35?. Intercooler is a must and I'm the rest of the guys will add something in
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Well is my power adders in that 'Big range' cause I don't want to mess with replacing the bolts with studs. Seem like a pain in the ***, but I never messed with a engine like this I am use to 4 cyl tractor engines. But yeah, can't wait to hear your guys opinions.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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I wouldn't be getting to wound up unless you plan on putting a different charger on that engine. The stock can handle some pretty decent power, but if your serious about pulling you will need to upgrade if you plan on running over 30 pounds consitantly. Internals will hold up fine, headstuds if you plan on running some boost.

It sounds like you are serious about pulling... I would ditch the b codes and go for a set of big singles. For the price you'd spend on B's you could get stage 1-2's.

Doesn't the stealth require you to run electric fuel? For the amount of money your planning to put in this you might as well go big.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Yeah stealth requires you to go to a electronic system, which I plan on a AIRDOG SUPERDOG system, but yeah I see it as go big. As for PSI.. what we get stock? Plus I know very few guys in the class I would be pulling in that run over 30 in the Cummins, so I think I am safe and sound there, just head studs when you go more boost? I got that. Thanks guys. Any other info/help you can give I will gladly listen.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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I'd get Hybrind injectors and a modded H2E turbo along with all that other stuff... A non ball bearing turbo won't last with that much power and boost. 35-40 psi max.

I agree with head studs also...
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Well if I get the studs you want to install them? cause I don't feel like pulling the engine, to pull the heads, jsut to put studs and new gaskets on. But if I do decided to do studs, I will get some of beans bigger intake manifolds. But yeah I want to stay stock and close to stock as possible, no for ****s and giggles, will a stock engine stand up to nitrous?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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I read an article about replacing arp head studs one at a time in the required order and people getting away with it. It was directed at the 6.0 powerstroke boys actually.

Remove one bolt, replace with ARP stud, torque down, move on to next bolt.....ect.ect.ect.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Wow, that is very useful, has anyone on here ever done it? If so I would probably go that route.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Why are you wanting the FASS or Airdog?

I don't think these units are useful on our trucks. Remember, these engines are a completly different animal than the 5.9L Cummins. We don't have the fueling issues that they have.

You don't have to have a ball bearing turbo to handle boost numbers. Numbers between 30-40 are not really that high when you are talking about sled pulling or big power.

What are the requirements for class I? It only takes a tuner in order for a 5.9L to run more than 30lbs...
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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The reason I want FASS or AIRDOG cause, I have worked on them and know they are a good system and the two are pretty much the same. I know we don't have fuel problems they have. Just I like to make sure things get enough fuel. Secondly I want streetable so I assume about 30 psi is good. Cause the rules around here is you have to ruck stock OR nothing bigger than 66cm, and I like idea of just stock turbo.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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Ok, I see what you are doing.

The stealth pump is over kill for Stage 1's and the stock charger. You will not likely use enough fuel to validate the FASS either. I agree the FASS is a good system, we run them on our cummins. However, the mech fuel is good to up to 500 hp... or so they say.

Most electric fuel systems have the components comparable to the FASS system as well.

I'd put a 17 degree HPOP on there on call it good. My 15 degree will run 30, but it seems to holding fairly well.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Well you must remember I am building up my truck to do 2WD sled pulling. So yeah a 17* pump isn't even an option for me lol. I want to go overly mild (AKAK just a little less than wild) so yeah.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Definitely. It's going to be a challenge. I still don't think you will be able to reap the rewards of those mods. Just my opinnion though... which probably is not that creditable. Haha.

2wd would be hard to start out on. Do you have a 5-speed or auto? Sounds like traction will be the name of the game.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Auto and 2WD is a game of traction, mostly getting enough wieght up front, and in back so you keep good traction. Mostly is needing ladder bars, and bunches of weight. But the thin about the mods is there there, just in case I run into a ton of money and run a cmpound turbo setup, with injectors the size of horse legs lol. But from my studying my mentors, why run ladder bars about up to the center of the cab (Well center of a cab on a Supercab truck, rear of there regular cab trucks) they serup weights int he front and back. Like a weight tree in the front of the bed, and some have a setup for there hitch where they add it there. 2WD isn't any harder than the 4X4 guy's.. but we get to run a 30 inch hitch height unlike the 4X4 guys. lol but yeah I am learning and studdying.
 
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